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Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by darthbarracuda, Nov 15, 2012.

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  1. darthbarracuda

    darthbarracuda Jedi Knight star 3

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    If you could change some of the military tactics/weapons/etc in star wars, what would it be?
     
  2. Yunners

    Yunners Jedi Master star 2

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    The Rebellion should have bombarded the Empire with a torrent of questions to confuse and irritate them.
     
  3. darthbarracuda

    darthbarracuda Jedi Knight star 3

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    LOL
     
  4. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Let's see...

    AT-ATs that only have forward guns... even modern tanks can target any direction. Of course, the rebels mostly attack AT-ATs head on, so it's not a big deal.

    Death Star I could have used a shield.
     
  5. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 8

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    It had a shield. It's just that the shield had snubfighter-sized holes in it.
     
  6. darthbarracuda

    darthbarracuda Jedi Knight star 3

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    I hate the tactics employed in battle. Like the grassy plains battle. The droids marched in formation like in the middle ages!
    The whole clone wars...even though I like it, I wish they would make it more modern I guess. In AOTC, the final battle on Geonosis has massive armies on each side just firing their weapons. It's medieval style tactics.
    Just drop a small atomic bomb and there goes the the droid army.
    But then I guess they would employ a shield.
    Which would then force an army to march in battle since there was a shield.
    So I guess when there's a technological achievement, they must reverse-engineer their battle tactics.
     
  7. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It's not just medieval, I think tight formations were still around until they started to use machine guns.

    Besides, there hasn't been a major conflict in the galaxy for a thousand years and both droids and clones are quite expendable.
     
  8. darthbarracuda

    darthbarracuda Jedi Knight star 3

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    But why waste them? They have machine guns so why do they fight like the middle ages?
     
  9. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    They do? :)
     
  10. darthbarracuda

    darthbarracuda Jedi Knight star 3

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    Yeah! Look at their blasters! Those are machine guns, just with blaster bolts. And think of the E-Web Turrets. There's tons of weaponry that are just like modern day, just put with a sci-fi like look and feel. So instead of a machine gun that fires bullets, you have a sci-fi-looking gun that fires flashy colored bolts.
     
  11. Yunners

    Yunners Jedi Master star 2

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    But... they're not machine guns, they're blasters. Be it carbine, rifle, pistol or repeater. The main difference is the lack of mechanization.
     
  12. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Right, they look like machine guns but they don't seem to function like them.
     
  13. darthbarracuda

    darthbarracuda Jedi Knight star 3

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    But the fact is that they shoot multiple bolts quickly, like a machine gun.

    My theory for the whole bomb dropping thing:

    So they used to use atomic/nuclear warheads, but then eventually particle shields were invented to stop any solid material from passing through. So they had the blaster bolts. And without huge bombs and stuff, they were forced back into the medieval-style combat. And then energy bombs were invented, and then ray shields that protected from them.

    What I never understood was if the Death Star I had a thermal exhaust port that was ray-shielded, then why didn't the Rebels fire an automatic bomb into it? So no energy missiles can penetrate it, but a solid-matter missile can. In the present day, we have "fire and forget" missiles on our aircraft. So thousands of years later, they ought to have at least a slightly better targeting accuracy right? So then just fire a super-fast solid missile that precisely targets the exhaust port and have it go down into it an explode! Why did the Rebels have to use X-wings piloted by sentient beings to fire a proton torpedo into the port? A computerized brain probably would have better accuracy. And the Alliance wasn't even counting on Luke using his Force abilities.

    But then I guess the Empire could jam the computer brain or signal. But then why didn't the Empire jam the signals from the pilots to the Yavin IV base?!?!?!

    So many questions...........
     
  14. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You know, despite its title, Star Wars is not really about realistic military tactics :) It works better if you don't overanalyze it.

    When I want believable space combat, I read good military scifi such as David Weber, John Scalzi, etc.
     
  15. The Man Who Sold the Moon

    The Man Who Sold the Moon Jedi Youngling star 1

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    So if Scalzi would write an SW book he should dumb it down?
     
  16. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Not necessarily, the book can go into more detail than the movies that actually have to be accessible to kids. I don't expect Band of Brothers when I watch Star Wars.
     
  17. fishtailsam

    fishtailsam Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Here's something.

    Star Wars uses "medieval" tactics because it is supposed to be 'fantacy' an not 'sci-fi'.

    Now lets here some thoughts from you.
     
  18. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    They apparently had a Navy Seal providing movements for clone troopers in ROTS.
     
  19. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, they did.
     
  20. -NaTaLie-

    -NaTaLie- Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Cool. One or more? I read a couple of books about BUDS (training of Seals). That's some serious beating they take. Luke on Dagobah had it much easier :)
     
  21. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Lol. I donno. At least SEAL instructors don't talk backwards. :p

    I'm assuming it'd just be one...ILM wouldn't need more than that.
     
  22. Hero of Tukayyid

    Hero of Tukayyid Jedi Youngling star 1

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    We had seen clones the in action on Utapau only and it looked ok to me(Mygettto and soo on but threre they were long combat sequences). I was never in the military. What do people who were in the army or are currently serving think?
     
  23. Hero of Tukayyid

    Hero of Tukayyid Jedi Youngling star 1

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    We had seen clones the in action on Utapau only and it looked ok to me(Mygettto and soo on but threre they were long combat sequences). I was never in the military. What do people who were in the army or are currently serving think?

    Sorry.
     
  24. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm in the military. They looked correct.
     
  25. The Hellhammer

    The Hellhammer Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The droids walking in square formations and just shooting from the hip seems logical, having in mind that they're cheap, expendable and not overly sophisticated.

    As for other fights, they could use a bit more of a WW2 feel to them. Fire and maneouver and such.
     
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