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Full Series Tarkin

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Jedi Knight Fett, Mar 7, 2015.

  1. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    So I think he has appeared in enough episodes to Warrant his own thread

    So discuss everything about Tarkin in rebels here.
     
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  2. Cushing's Admirer

    Cushing's Admirer Chosen One star 7

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    Well, basically all I can say is I'm glad to see proof he's alive.
     
  3. Octavian Dibar

    Octavian Dibar Jedi Knight star 3

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  4. Cushing's Admirer

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  5. Hopeless

    Hopeless Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm glad they've shown him to be at the very least more competent than whoever commands those ships whilst he's busy!

    I can't see him ignoring that Gozanti ship the rebels were using long enough to confirm Kanan was alive or wonder why it only carried 1 TIE Fighter!

    I assume the other ships were focused on protecting Tarkin than closing in on the rebel ships, but I still hope come season 2 we learn he used their recordings of the attack to figure out where those corvettes came from and ordered a reprisal to confirm it was them?
    So did they portray Tarkin properly in the final?
     
  6. Kassius Konstantine

    Kassius Konstantine Jedi Master star 1

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    I think Tarkin is well represented. His plan to capture Kanan works, after all. Even his contingency plan works and brings (elite?) Stormtrooper reinforcements on time. It is hardly his fault that the Inquisitor fails (who knew he failed in the first place, hence his suicide).

    As for the Gozanti... it is not Tarkin's job to monitor ship traffic and check out the number of fighters attached to certain ships. He is way to high ranking to do crewmen's jobs. It would have been the responsibility of the ISD's crew to inform him about that. ... and, as a sidenote, we do not know what went on on the bridge. Perhaps he or the Inquisitor wanted the Rebels, especially Ezra, to board the ship??

    Of course, his men's failure also reflects on him, and I hope the show does not make the Rebels outsmart him too often. And if they do, Tarkin must learn from it, and emerge stronger. It is most important that he has success in order to earn his top position in ANH.
     
  7. CoolyFett

    CoolyFett Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Smh....CA has a habit of saying strange things when it comes to Tarkin and Peter Cushing....

    Anywho Rebels is a great opportunity show fans the rivalry between Tarkin and Bail/Leia. When Tarkin gives the order to destroy Alderaan it always seemed like it was personal, as if Tarkin had other reasons to destroy the planet. I think not only does Tarkin have issues with Bail and Leia, but there may be some other Alderaan characters that Tarkin has a huge distaste for. He just blow up Alderaan too easy.
     
  8. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    i would like to see some interaction between Tarkin and the Emporer.
     
  9. Hopeless

    Hopeless Jedi Master star 4

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    Would like to see some evidence of that the audio version of ANH had an imperial killed after realising Leia knew the name of the Empire's new secret project always wondered what if he was related to Tarkin making his death personal?
     
  10. Cushing's Admirer

    Cushing's Admirer Chosen One star 7

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    [face_laugh] Funny. :p I mean I am glad Tarkin is present while not enjoying how he's used.

    Everyone is entitled to accept and reject whatever they choose. Per Tarkin Cushy accepts only Sir on screen as yet. Thus I ignore everything else so far quite happily. :D
     
  11. CoolyFett

    CoolyFett Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    No doubt, Tarkin has some issues with someone on Alderaan. Makes ya wonder. I could be wrong, if its someone other than Bail. Anything is possible.
     
  12. Mojo120

    Mojo120 Jedi Knight star 1

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    I think that Tarkin's cheekbones could probably cut a Star Destroyer in half.
     
  13. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Coruscant drinking water is mutating the guy:

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  14. Tarkin's Fuzzy Slippers

    Tarkin's Fuzzy Slippers Jedi Knight star 2

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    What can you say?? Wilhuff has always had some the most magnificent and impressive cheekbones in the GFFA.
     
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  15. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    i wonder what Tarkin was doing before the clone wars. well im sure some you know
     
  16. TheOneX_Eleazar

    TheOneX_Eleazar Jedi Knight star 4

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    I don't see what the issue with only 1 TIE would be. The others could have easily been destroyed in an attack.
     
  17. Hopeless

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    Maybe he and Bail both courted Breha before she and Bail married?
     
  18. Hopeless

    Hopeless Jedi Master star 4

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    He would have checked and at the very least had them dock with another star destroyer if not landing at Mustafar.

    So Tarkin was definitely heading to the bridge to make his latest check on the other ships when Sabine's masterpiece announced itself!
     
  19. Tarkin's Fuzzy Slippers

    Tarkin's Fuzzy Slippers Jedi Knight star 2

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    Is it bad that the first thing that popped in my head to this question was Porn?? I'm such gutter trash.
    But Seriously, the Tarkin novel has a good overview as his life before the Clone Wars, which include Eriadu politics, and sending pirate groups into a sun to make an example of them.
     
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  20. TaradosGon

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    And getting sent by his parents into the Eriadu wilderness with his great uncle to learn survival techniques every year for several years, culminating in him having to ascend a dangerous hill dominated by dangerous primates that have killed relatives of his, and spend an entire day there as a right of passage :oops:

    God, I hated that part.

    But the fault for the escape of the Rebels ultimately falls on Tarkin. Or it should have at any rate.

    If a Captain in the Navy loses his ship to pirates, that fault rests on him, and he's likely to get demoted. He's not going to be able to pull some excuse like, "it's not my fault that so-and-so didn't do their job correctly!" Because, yes, it is precisely Tarkin's fault that so-and-so wasn't doing their job correctly.

    The Inquisitor may have failed in defeating Kanan and Ezra, but Ezra should never have made it aboard the ship, and had the Rebels not made it aboard the ship, then Kanan would never have been rescued and The Inquisitor would have done his job admirably. That the Rebels boarded Tarkin's flagship and took out the power, freed Kanan, killed the Inquisitor, destroyed the ship's reactor, then escaped, is a failure that I would expect should logically have fallen squarely on Tarkin's head.

    That the Inquisitor feared for his failure while Tarkin, who was in charge of that whole operation, gets off without even so much as a hint of a slap on the wrist is just wrong to me. I can see why Filoni wouldn't want to show Tarkin getting reprimanded, since that would probably detract from the way his character was perceived, but that could have been remedied by just not having Tarkin present in the finale. I mean, the guy didn't do anything. They could have just mentioned that once Kanan was captured, he entrusted the rest to The Inquisitor and left to go return to overseeing the Death Star's construction, or got summoned to Coruscant, or something.

    Because it's just such nonsense to me that The Inquisitor fears failing so much, when his failure was secondary to Tarkin's - who we saw no evidence of being punished, and quite the contrary, we see the Emperor put Vader under his command to remedy the situation (Filoni remarks that Tarkin does indeed outrank Vader at this time).
     
  21. Tarkin's Fuzzy Slippers

    Tarkin's Fuzzy Slippers Jedi Knight star 2

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    My new headcanon is that the conversation between Palps and Tarkin that took place after the Imperial $&*# up over Mustafar, was more or less similar to The Robot Chicken skit "The Emperor's Phone Call" just saying...
     
  22. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    His face is bait off.
     
  23. Kassius Konstantine

    Kassius Konstantine Jedi Master star 1

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    You are creating a paradox that is not present in the show, i.e. Tarkin not being punished despite his faults. The far more consistent conclusion is assuming that Tarkin's fault was either minor or that it simply was not his fault.

    After all, there is a difference between 'fault' and 'responsibility'. Of course the operation was not successful (not a total failure neither, mind you! Of the two objectives, capturing the so-called Jedi and extracting information about the other Rebels, one was achieved), and that was Tarkin's responsibility.
    It is not his responsibility to micro-manage everything aboard a capital ship. He cannot be reasonably blamed if crewmen fail at their basics. It is also not his responsibility picking each and every crewman for every each and every position aboard his flagship, even if it were permanently attached to him. That is other people's jobs.
    So we are left with the question: what is Tarkin's specific fault? That he did not run the ISD by himself? Perhaps he should have advised the crew being extra-careful, but even then we have to remember we do not know what was going on the bridge. He could have done just that. In a review of Tarkin's performance in the role of planning and leading the operation, the in-universe leadership of the Empire is obviously of the opinion he did not screw up.

    (Well, maybe some blue-skinned Captain would have analyzed the kindergarten drawings of the airspace controllers, concluding they are easily fooled when near a lava-planet, and replacing them with some experts he personally knew. But let's be honest, that is a quite unlikely case).

    The Emperor as well as Vader know what a force user can be capable of, and if a Death Star is insignificant next to the power of the force, the main responsibility to deal with a force user rests on another force user. And that particular force user, as we know, was perfectly aware of this. Outmatched by the force and not having committed major mistakes, Tarkin is not punished but given greater ressources by the Emperor himself.

    It all adds up really nicely from this point of view.
     
  24. TheOneX_Eleazar

    TheOneX_Eleazar Jedi Knight star 4

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    I still lack understanding of why having only one TIE automatically means something is wrong. There could be a million acceptable reason to have a single TIE.
     
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  25. Cushing's Admirer

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    I really don't blame a character for lazy plot and writing. What I have read of the childhood for Tarkin in the novel illustrates just fine a point I've been longing for someone else to acknowledge a long time: Wilhuff is human like everyone else and circumstances beyond his means shape him. Rather pathetic his parents and kin are so ruthless but that is hardly the lad's fault. Plus, it shows how his spirit gets crushed and warped. I consider that gutsy. He's a victim of fear from the first. Fear and expectation.