TCW Grievous' character development, conspiracies, suspicions, and otherwise unfortunate comparisons

I've always been a big Grievous fan, at least back in the day. I mean during the whole ROTS thing and the 2d cartoon. He was always super cool. But I just sat down to watch all the CW and am about 3/4 through Season 2. And I think Grievs is quite a bit different from the previous Grievous that I thought I once knew. So here, let me just throw the evidence out to you -


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[image=http://www.invaderzim.tv/images/pak_legs.jpg]

Zim has 4 mechanical arms/legs that he crawls around with like a spider. Up walls, down walls, etc. etc.

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In case you forgot that Grievous has 4 mechanical arms that he crawls around on like a spider, here's a pic to remind you.


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The stupidity of Grievous' battledroids and his interactions with them. Compare it to Zim's interactions with his robot, Gir. I would link to a youtube video of their interactions here, but to be honest I hate that show with a passion and will not sit through 20 million fan vidoes of Gir dancing to latin music. So you must search for it on your own. But it's the same annoying crap.


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The laughing. They both laugh maniacally followed by a cough or clearing of the throat. Obviously Zim's bronchitis is not as painfully obvious as Grievous', but he still does it quite fair bit.


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The generic horrible statements and shouts of wiping out the enemy and destroying their existences and taking over the world. That one is a given.



Now I'm not going to straight out say that the people developing Grievous' character copied Vasquez. I'm just going to say, it's a little weird that the 4 major characteristics that define both of those characters happen to be...the same things. I mean, if you don't believe me - go rent some Zim episodes, and imagine Grievous in his place saying his lines. One just happens to be in the form of a badass robot, the other a horribly drawn cartoon.

And yes I think this will lead to uncovering great conspiracies in the underground mythical land of Filoni and his mates.

 

Isn't there already a Grievous thread?

 

I'm sorry, you lost me at the Invader Zim comparison.

 

Since this topic seems sufficiently removed from the previous conversations in the Official General Grievous [fanclub] Thread, I don't see why it can't stay... for now. It's also, ironically, more lighthearted than the other thread topics currently on the main page. Even though it's about... Invader... Zim...

So does Gir have any relation whatsoever to Gor? Or since he's a robot, The Good Doctor?

 

How about a thread where SLG goes through GGrievous's character development through TCW?

 

I'd be down with that

 

Invader who now?

 

Can you define what this means using a pie chart.

 

[image=http://crujonessociety.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/claw_inspector_gadget.jpg]

Next time, Gadget... next time!

 

General Grievous is a combo of the top-hatted, caped, moustachioed, villian: Snidely Whiplash from the The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show and Dr. Octopus from Spider-Man.

Interesting fact: actor Alfred Molina has played both characters.
Additional interesting fact: Snidely Whiplash liked to tie up the "damsel in distress" to a railroad track. Grievous in the 2-D Clones Wars tied up Shaak Ti (not to a railroad track, but there was a high-speed railtrain going through Coruscant at the time).

 

Yes and there's also a clear nod to the Barca brothers who had an uncanny gift for escaping after almost every defeat in the 2nd Punic War.

We've almost got the whole thing pieced together now.

 

That dastardly fiend!

 

Oh god it never gets old.

 

lmao, EPIC win

Well I tied my baby to the railroad track
Cannonball down the line
Givin' that woman just one more chance
To give it to me one more time
Engineer wishin' he was home in bed
Dreamin' 'bout Casey Jones
Wide eyed woman half a mile ahead
Thinkin' 'bout broken bones

It's your love that I want
It's your love that I need
It's your love gotta have
It's your love

Heavenly body flyin' 'cross the sky
Superman was outta town
Come on honey gotta change your tune
Cause it's a long way down
Clark Kent lookin' for a free ride
Thinkin' about Lois Lane
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's suicide
And that'd be a shame

It's your love that I want
It's your love that I need
It's your love gotta have,
It's your love

But what's next to the moon

Long arm lookin' for a finger print
Tryin' to find a mystery clue
Hittin' me with the third degree
Working on the thumb screw
All right officer I confess
Everything's coming back
I didn't mean to hurt that woman of mine
It was a heart attack

(Young/Young/Scott)

 

I would also like to open this thread up to discussion on the fact that I don't believe that Boba Fett is really a clone of Jango. I think his appearance is merely a hoax. Why else would Aurra Sing mother him so? Why else would Hondo ask if it was his child? We never saw the face of Boba Fett in the films when he was older. Perhaps his true Weequay traits revealed themselves in his face later on.

 

You mean those Wookiee braids on his armor are actually his own Weequay braids?

 

I can't view that from either my phone or work PC (sad).

So instead I did some research on SLG's theory and watched some Invader Zim and while seeing no evidence of an influence on the good general, I did find it quite amusing (probably more so because I'm at work).

 

while I have yet to concoct a Grievous conspiracy theory or want to touch the potential Mrs Robinson nature of Aurra and Boba's relationship, I would like to see clone wars take on Grievous' history with a visit to his homeworld and flashbacks to his pre-droid days....

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Dream on. We're not getting any flashbacks, I'm afraid.