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[TECH] The auto-censor

Discussion in 'Communications' started by Dark Lady Mara, Oct 9, 2004.

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  1. Kimball_Kinnison

    Kimball_Kinnison Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I still don't see an overriding need for this. Six years and counting have gone by without the need for a auto-censor/filter. Really, this may promote more profanity and bucking the system.

    Unfortunately, we have no say in whether it is implemented. That decision came from IGN. We just have to make the best of it.

    Kimball Kinnison
     
  2. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "I still don't see an overriding need for this."

    Neither do I or a whole bunch of other people, both mod and non-mods alike.
    And, as has been said a few times, we didn't ask for it (ever? You should know, you were reading ModSquad before I knew of it ;)).
    And we weren't asked if we wanted it, either.
    You gotta ask whoever has the say at IGN.


    Some JCers may find it useful (if it works) once it's there, but we didn't need it.


    oh, and.... isn't the f-word a harmless Swedish word? those FanForces might look funny in the future ;)
     
  3. Jedi_Satimber

    Jedi_Satimber Jedi Knight star 8

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    will posts revert to their intended state after this glitch is fixed? or will all those poor souls working on huge posts in the Senate have to start over?


    OMG!!!!!


    The joy that would bring me....to see all of them useless posts completely starred out.


    What a lesson that would teach them.


    so is cockpit really a bad word???


    Fanfic is going to get a tad bit interesting.

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    Ok...does thefilter work for just actually posted stuff or preview stuff too?


    I was testing something...and it did not seem to work.
     
  4. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    as of now it doesn't work at all, I think.
    zerosleep took it down umm yesterday or something... and what he posted/ did today didn't turn it back on, as far as I understood

    but then again, I may have been confused by all the swear words he posted ;)
     
  5. Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa

    Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Well, i think it might be a lot easier for the mods and users alike set this to filter out some of the other words the mods have been kind of soft about as of late. Heck, i've seen a few mods edit out 'ass' and 'damn' lately. It'd be easier if you set a filter against this in the first place, no?
     
  6. Dingo

    Dingo Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Unfortunately, we have no say in whether it is implemented. That decision came from IGN. We just have to make the best of it.

    Don't know if anyone has actually suggested this or not, but if the censor turns out to be more problems than it's worth, could you just ask for pretty much everything (except for those handful of major profanities) to be removed from the list, thus essentially turning it off?
     
  7. Kimball_Kinnison

    Kimball_Kinnison Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Don't know if anyone has actually suggested this or not, but if the censor turns out to be more problems than it's worth, could you just ask for pretty much everything (except for those handful of major profanities) to be removed from the list, thus essentially turning it off?

    Actually, about 5 hours after I posted my previous comment, zerosleep posted in MS saying that we don't have to have it and he could turn it off for us. We can also customize the rules (for example, he's already corrected it to allow words like cockpit).

    No decision has been made either way, but it is under discussion.

    Kimball Kinnison
     
  8. Obi-Zahn Kenobi

    Obi-Zahn Kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I say four asterisks the profanity filter.
     
  9. Kimball_Kinnison

    Kimball_Kinnison Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    What I am personally in favor of is enacting the filter, but in a limited fashion. For example, it can be tailored so that cockpit is not filtered, but **** is. There are few words that have no place on these boards at all, and the profanity filter would help that.

    Some of those words would include:

    **** <-- "****"
    **** <-- "****"
    and
    *** <--- "t**" ;)

    Of course, moderators and above are immune to the filter, so we could throw that last one around all we want. :p

    Kimball Kinnison
     
  10. Darth_Michael

    Darth_Michael Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I must honestly say, that to me the fear of profantity shown here starts to take on almost as great proportains as the fear of nudity. But at least the panicked reactions are always good for a laugh.

    *Shakes head in ridicule*
     
  11. Maulfly

    Maulfly Moderator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    zerosleep posted in MS saying that we don't have to have it and he could turn it off for us.

    Heh...so messed up and troublesome even Zerosleep couldn't do anything reasonable with it, eh? ;)


    Considering that it's now a choice as to whether or not it's used here, considering Zerosleep's offer, it'll be interesting to see what actually happens... [face_mischief]
     
  12. comet1440

    comet1440 Jedi Master star 4

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    To be honest I dont see anything wrong with profanities.
     
  13. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    There is nothing wrong with them. They're just not allowed.
    There is nothing wrong with a naked woman (or two, or three), either, but it's not allowed to post pictures of them - sadly ;)

    (Yes, I know, I could have picked a better comparison, sue me. It sounds nice. Besides, when do you get to post about naked women in Comms? ;))
     
  14. Lord Bane

    Lord Bane Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Why not include a censor that only moderates the F-bomb, and then leave it up to the mods to catch the rest. If it's going to be so much of a problem, put in the least censor you can and rely - as the site has for six years - on the hard work of the Administration to find and erase profanity.

    I don't want something like "cockpit" censored just because it contains a male chicken.
     
  15. Errant_Venture

    Errant_Venture Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't see why its even needed at all, I mean there will always be a way around it. The site has opereated just fine without one, so why get one now? Oh and umm IIRC manually *ing out the "F" word was permissible, so why make it bannable now, if its auto-censored?

    **Please note, that I skimmped this topic and as such, my post could be quite wrong due to ignorance and laziness**
     
  16. droideka27

    droideka27 Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Oh and umm IIRC manually *ing out the "F" word was permissible, so why make it bannable now, if its auto-censored?

    It's not banable. we can't tell if you put **** or the actual fword when typing your post. what IS banable, or, i should say, is more strongly banable, is circumventing the word censor. Because it shows you went out of your way to post one of those words.
     
  17. Enji

    Enji Jedi Master star 6

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    oh, and.... isn't the f-word a harmless Swedish word? those FanForces might look funny in the future

    No, it's not... it doesn't mean anything in Swedish. But we DO have a famous film called [link=http://imdb.com/title/tt0150662/]******* Åmål[/link] (Åmål is a small town.) The F-word is not considered very offensive here, at least not as offensive as in English-speaking countries.

    Don't think any common Swedish words get starred out with this system. Other languages might not be so lucky though...
     
  18. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    ah, yes, it was a film title! Thank you.
    It's supposed to be the English swear word?


    Man, I gotta start a "swearing in different cultures" thread sometime... This is interesting ;)
     
  19. Enji

    Enji Jedi Master star 6

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    Yep, it's supposed to be the english word. It's rather commonly used here, thanks to all american films shown here and stuff like that... many english swearwords have found their way into daily swedish swearing, and usually they're much milder in Sweden. Can't write them here though. :p
     
  20. TwiLekJedi

    TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, well, it's very simliar in Germany. The direct translations of all those bad words are horrible - but as soon as they're in English, they seem as worse as "poopy pants" or something :p

    However, I think we're starting to derail this thread, and I gotta go anyway, so, let's get back on topic.


    I think in a way we're still in talks with zerosleep :)
     
  21. FamousAmos

    FamousAmos VIP star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, it looks like zerosleep fixed the auto-censor. I was playing around with it in the preview window, and it looks like everything's working fine. Bad words are **'ed out, but words that include curses, like cocky, are not starred out. Good work and thank you, zerosleep :)
     
  22. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    From what I understand the censor can be turned off, but the tf.n owners really like it, so.... chances are it will remain on.

     
  23. somethingfamiliar

    somethingfamiliar Jedi Knight star 5

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    We could make internet history here by filtering out "definately." A better day would dawn for us all.
     
  24. war_monger

    war_monger Jedi Knight star 5

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    That and 'Anikan'. :rolleyes:


    ... along with 'Vadar', 'Sideous', and 'Dukoo'.
     
  25. Dark Lady Mara

    Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Vador. I hate that one. :mad:

    Testing:
    ****
    ****
    cockatiel
    ****take
    Cos Da**** :D
     
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