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Lit Terms that shouldn't be used in Star Wars novels?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by s_heffley, May 22, 2016.

  1. Duguay

    Duguay Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    I think I'm hung up on certain forms of address, but maybe that's because the original movies are only able to depict small portions of galactic civilization (or non-civilization a fair amount, too). The first movies used formal language for family relationships; so Father and Mother, never mom and dad. There aren't really any occasions where it's natural in the dialogue for Luke to refer to Owen and Beru as "my Uncle" and my Aunt" which gives me the impression he would always refer to them as Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru, never shortening those for convenience. It's just an impression. Naturally the prequels go for more causal address, using mom and dad. I almost think GL should have reversed that, since the Prequels have a more formal tone, and the original movies take place in locations were people are might well be less formal.

    There have been the occasional book that has used Mr. or Ms., and those would annoy me until I rationalized that for SW, they are short for "master" or "mistress", which function as SW's equivalent of "mister" and "miss". But then Finn mucked that up by addressing Han as "Mister Solo", which caused my eyes to bug out for a moment when I first heard it in the theater.
     
  2. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Skywalker: Listen, I can't get involved! I've got work to do! It's not that I like the Empire, I hate it, but there's nothing I can do about it right now. It's such a long way from here.
    Kenobi: That's your uncle talking.
    Skywalker: Oh, boy, my uncle. How am I ever gonna explain this?
    Kenobi: Learn about the Force, Luke.
     
  3. darkspine10

    darkspine10 Chosen One star 8

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    Isn't the only person in the PT to use 'mom' Anakin, who's still very young and attached to his mother?
     
  4. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Boba used "Dad."


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  5. darkspine10

    darkspine10 Chosen One star 8

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    Again, he is still a child.
     
  6. Duguay

    Duguay Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    Ah, good reminder, thank you! I can't believe I'm starting to forget dialogue from movies I've seen sooo many times!

    My mind is going. I can feel it.
     
  7. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You're the best kind of person. [:D]
     
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  8. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    I can't even with this thread anymore.
     
  9. CaptainPeabody

    CaptainPeabody Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I dunno, there's no reason the term "Hell" necessarily has to refer to a place of punishment/divine alienation, let alone our culturally-approved, post-Dante, post-Puritan, post-editorial-cartooning vision thereof. The Latin infernus, Greek "Hades," and even the English Hell, have been and can be used to refer to anything from a shadowy Homeric netherworld to the Eleusinian fields of paradise. Han's comment would probably indicate that it's not a nice place, but there's still basically total freedom to define the characteristics of "Hell" in Corellian/SW cultural understanding.

    Also, the EU had the literal Force Hell for bad Dark Side people, right? That was pretty wizard.
     
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  10. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yes, the Dark Side Hell, or "Chaos." And I liked that. (Of course, Plagueis didn't believe it was a real place, but only the perception of imminent dissolution some beings felt upon death. But Plagueis was such an atheist! :p )
     
  11. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    And Plagueis was absolutely correct.

    Dissolution of the Self = Jedi harmony / Sith Chaos.
     
  12. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    But Plagueis also thought that Sith ghosts didn't exist, despite the fact that he met one. He's the Agent Scully of the Sith Order. :D (And the "Force afterlife" was depicted as real "place" in an old Marvel comic. Well, as "real" as the inside of a Rakata mind prison at any rate.)
     
  13. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 10

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    Luke used to bullseye womprats, right? So, what's a bull? How big are its eyes in a GFFA? How many eyes does it have?
     
  14. Jedi Princess

    Jedi Princess Jedi Master star 4

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    A bull bantha's eyes get pretty big, but good luck finding them under all that shag.
     
  15. Grand Admiral Paxis

    Grand Admiral Paxis Jedi Master star 3

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    I'm surprised that we've managed to get four pages in to this thread without anyone mentioning the infamous "Portuguese man-o'-war" from the Lando series. :p
     
  16. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well, what's wrong with coming from the planet Portug?
     
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  17. Grand Admiral Paxis

    Grand Admiral Paxis Jedi Master star 3

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    The fact that the planet Portug didn't exist at the time of their writing it. ;)
     
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  18. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Irrelevant to me. :p I prefer to see things from an In Universe perspective. ;)
     
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  19. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Isn't there a Planet Barcelona where the dogs have no noses?
     
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  20. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Like that scene in Book of the Sith where Plagueis meets Marka Ragnos's ghost on Korriban and Ragnos doesn't answer his scientific questions so he just leaves in a tizzy assuming it was a day dream.

    Like Marka frickin Ragnos tries to haunt you and you don't even give him the time of day!
     
  21. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I always wondered whether we were supposed to agree with Plagueis or not. TOTJ makes it clear that Sith Ghosts are very real (and there was also Ajunta Pall's ghost in KOTOR). Looks like Plagueis exhibited the Scully Syndrome. Or maybe Arbitrary Skepticism is a better definition of his mindset.
     
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  22. Gamiel

    Gamiel Chosen One star 9

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    Plagueis is a fanatic, if it don't fit his view of reality it's some kind of trick or just not real.
     
  23. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Okay, but then what do those without Force sensitivity, or who were never trained as Jedi or Sith, experience upon death?
     
  24. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Nothing, I would imagine.

    The Sith fight against the current (with Sith Spirits being those who are the best at it), the Jedi allow it to take them (with Force Ghosts being those who ride the current perfectly), and the non-sensitive have no choice in the matter.
     
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  25. Mistress_Renata

    Mistress_Renata Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Perhaps the individual religion or folklore of their own individual worlds? It could be that there are people who don't believe in the Force but who do believe in a God/Goddess/Pantheon, and who have their own mythology of the afterlife. And there must be the Galactic version of atheists, who think all this Force stuff is a bunch of hooey (paging Captain Solo!). ;)

    Or not?
     
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