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ST TFA End Credits

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Jabbadabbado, May 29, 2015.

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  1. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    There's been speculation that Andrew Kramer, the After Effects guru and plug-in developer who did the end credits for Star Trek into Darkness has been hired to do an end credit sequence for Star Wars.

    If so, would you approve of something like that included in a Star Wars movie, or do you prefer the end credit style of the OT and sequels and feel it's a non negotiable element of the look and feel of Star Wars?

     
  2. DarthLightlyBruise

    DarthLightlyBruise Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Not interested in anything like that. Keep it classic.
     
  3. Bobby Roberts

    Bobby Roberts Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Where's the speculation coming from?

    I doubt it's going to happen. As adherent to the traditions/conventions of the original trilogy as they've been (and been making a point of being whenever media attention is directed to this production) I have a hard time believing they're going to change the iris out and the blue scroll of words.

    What outlets are whispering/mumbling that this is a thing?

    Don't discount the possibility dude might be hired to work on supplemental material for blu-ray/digital releases as well - if this speculation actually has root in anything observable.
     
  4. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think it's coming entirely from Andrew Kramer's highly esoteric fanbase. It's pretty well established that he has a very good working relationship with Abrams. And you can almost see that video posted above as a self-promoting plug for getting the Star Wars job (destroying the Falcon).
     
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  6. Bobby Roberts

    Bobby Roberts Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    So it's coming from nowhere solid, based on nothing substantial.
     
  7. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think that sums it up: 1. Kramer has worked on pretty much every recent Abrams project (e.g. Fringe titles and Super 8). 2. He's a title sequence specialist. 3. He's gone into complete radio silence about his recent activities - hasn't posted anything on his site in more than a month (exactly what happened when he holed up on the Star Trek into Darkness project).

    The main counter indicators are 1) the end credit style is probably set in stone and 2) it's probably too soon for title deliverables for TFA. I'm pretty sure they finished the STiD sequence only weeks before the release date.

    Of course 3. could be the result of another project like the Mission Impossible title sequence.
     
  8. Cushing's Admirer

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    I'd be a bit surprised if it happened but not opposed on principle. I sometimes enjoy imagined space imagery. :)
     
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  9. Darth_Voider

    Darth_Voider Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I hope the end credits are classic. Iris out and blue letters with a simple starfield background. This worked in the last 6 movies as well as TCW. If they change the end credits, then I would walk out of the theater.
     
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  10. Bobby Roberts

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    Mission Impossible seems way more plausible than Star Wars.

    Changing the opening and end titles is likely not even on the board as a possibility. Can't see it even being called into question, honestly. Again, Abrams has been doing things like using the original poster fonts, and trying to match the specific grain of the Kodak stock used in 77. That's not a guy who then introduces dramatic cgi motion-menus, essentially, to replace the opening and end titles.
     
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  11. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3135304/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

    this is Kramer's imdb page. Obviously the speculation is based on his working relationship with Abrams. It's also possible that Kramer is doing THE title sequence and the crawl, but Abrams wouldn't hire him for that unless they were planning on radically changing its look and style, which would be even more dubious than playing with the end credits.

    He's just a little piece of the puzzle that makes up the Abrams visual style.
     
  12. Bobby Roberts

    Bobby Roberts Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The speculation is based on nothing, though. Lots of people have worked with Abrams fairly frequently that aren't working on Star Wars now. There's no reason to honestly wonder if this is a thing that's happening when there's almost zero even pointing to the possibility. Linking to his IMDB doesn't change that.
     
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  13. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No, it's based on the fact that this guy works on Abrams projects in a very specific area. If you're interested in knowing something about the people Abrams works with to create his directorial style, this is one of the people. He's literally one of Abrams' lens flare guys. Notice that I have not claimed to believe that it is in fact the case that Kramer will get to mess with the end credits.

    I also think it's a fun fact that other interest groups besides Star Wars fans are speculating about the movie. It demonstrates the broad level of interest in the film.

    Just a change up from the endless boring chatter about character names and MSW plot spoilers.
     
  14. Bobby Roberts

    Bobby Roberts Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    So what. I mean - okay, it's cool you recognize this guy for having worked on Abrams projects before. But that's almost literally the only meat in this particular sandwich you're presenting to us.

    Then why is this even a thread?

    There's no real point to what you just did.
     
  15. Jabbadabbado

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    I thought some of the people in the thread would be interested in knowing something about one of the people who helps build Abrams' visual style. Also, I'm sharing the speculation from another forum. JC posters haven't cornered the market on speculation about the movie. I thought fans would be interested. I can see that you're not.
     
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  16. Bobby Roberts

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    It's not a matter of whether "JC posters have cornered the market" or whatever. It's bunk "speculation" with no real source. You also admitted you don't believe this is a possibility anyway, just that people who belong to a fansite for a guy who makes animated titles for JJ Abrams think he could be working on Star Wars.

    I'm sure there are people at a Lindelof fansite somewhere who are thinking he's secretly working on this movie, too. Doesn't mean their baseless wonderings should be dragged over here either and presented as a legitimate possibility worthy of conversation.
     
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  18. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Exactly. That's the report. People who belong to a fansite for a guy who makes animated titles for JJ Abrams think he could be working on Star Wars.

    I'm presenting it as a legitimate topic of conversation. If EHT disagrees he can shut it down. I'll PM him about it.
     
  19. hippie1kenobi

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    I think the iris-out > director/producer/main cast should (and will) stay the same, but once the rest of the credits start rolling I wouldn't be opposed to something a little different.
     
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  20. EHT

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    It's fine for a thread topic, at least for now. There's no harm in discussing it, even if most of us hope that the existing style of SW end credits stay in place vs. something like the other credits that this guy has worked on.
     
  21. Jabbadabbado

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    Thanks EHT

    I notice on YouTube there are already some fan-made TFA end credit sequences, and they all assume the standard blue text on a plain star field. It's an easy assumption. 6 movies with no variation.



    It could so easily be spiced up with interesting backdrops, but without changing the text, font treatment.
     
  22. Howard Hand

    Howard Hand Jedi Master star 4

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    While I love the original format, I think this could actually be cool. Though it'd probably be best to save this for one of the spin-off movies.
     
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  23. DarthLightlyBruise

    DarthLightlyBruise Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I don't oppose this style of end credits just for nostalgia reasons. I also think it looks cheap.
     
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  24. Darth_Articulate

    Darth_Articulate Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Opposed on principle for the saga films. Fine with it for anthology films. Saga should be consistent with form.
     
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  25. TheForceMakesCoffee

    TheForceMakesCoffee Jedi Knight star 2

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    This. I like the coherence with the other trilogies by keeping it the same.
     
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