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The 13th EUC Starfighter Draft: I've Got A Bad Feeling About This!

Discussion in 'EU Community' started by TypoCelchu, Apr 30, 2009.

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  1. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I am shocked and appalled.
     
  2. DarkEagle

    DarkEagle Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Can we sue them/it/anyone?
     
  3. s65horsey

    s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Pilot 7!

    Corran is Sexy League:

    StarSlayer Squadron vs I'm supposed to work with WHO? Squadron


    Adi Gallia vs Tal'dira


    Winner: Adi Gallia

    I can't belive I got forced into commishing with the team I drafted league:

    I don't even like these people vs For the Honor of Greyskull


    Biggs Darklighter vs Tyria Sarkin


    Arguments? I know Biggs was supposed to be awesome, but we didn't see him do that much and Tyria survived a lot and was still flying in LotF.

    Playoff for 5th and 6th Place:
    The How Many Anakins Is This? Squad vs We're all Ewoks Now!

    Broak Vessery vs Myn Donos



    Winner: Myn Donos
     
  4. s65horsey

    s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    heh, actually my computer's wireless system destroyed itself. So I had to get a USB wireless thing for it. [head_desk]
     
  5. adaml83

    adaml83 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Agree with Sey across the board, including the need for arguments on the second one.

    I would come up with my own but I'm tired.
     
  6. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    I'm leaning Biggs, if it helps get us any arguments ...
     
  7. CPL_Macja

    CPL_Macja Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I will be posting an arguement after in the next day or two once Christmas has settled at my house.

    Merry Christmas!

     
  8. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Tyria certainly has more experience than Biggs, but not all that much. She had under a year of mixed flying and ground missions that we've seen, and then up to four more years of the same sort of missions that we haven't seen and can't really say what they entailed. After that, she'd retired because of Doran. She then shows up thirty years later to fly in a battle or two for the Jedi. That's all we have. Biggs had a shorter career -- recreational flying as a kid, training under Fel, and a relatively brief but action-packed stint in the Rebel Alliance. Tyria has the edge here, but not a massive one.

    The Force? Tyria has it, minimally, and Biggs doesn't. We don't know much else about her connection, and haven't seen it much in use, but it's there.

    But the area where I think the big difference is is skill. Tyria never does anything really exceptional in the air in all the books, as far as I can tell, and she's always been a bottom-rank trainee (she needed remedial training, and wouldn't have passed that without Repness "adjusting" her scores -- rightfully, she never should have been a New Republic pilot) and a bottom-rank Wraith pilot. Biggs, on the other hand, has always been exceptional. He was a great bush pilot who was as good as Luke Skywalker, he was one of the stars of Fel's much-praised Prefsbelt class, and he was a great Rebel pilot who impressed the heck out of Wedge Antilles and picked up five kills in his first engagement and went on to survive several more hairy early-Rebel engagements before Darth Vader killed him when he was acting as a human shield for Luke. Wedge, Luke -- everyone around him agreed Biggs was good. Biggs has the skills edge far and away, and I think that pure skill in the cockpit counts for a lot more than Tyria's smaller experience and Force advantages. If they were both on an even playing field for skill, and one had more experience, that would be a tiebreaker, but I don't think middling experience like Tyria's can tip the scales all the way back to her side here.

    Put more simply, Wedge Antilles has flown with Biggs and with Tyria. If he were asked which of the two he'd want flying on his wing, is there any doubt the answer would be Biggs?
     
  9. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    Those were basically my thoughts, as well, so I'll make it official and vote for Biggs
     
  10. CPL_Macja

    CPL_Macja Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Once Havoc posted his arguments I was hard pressed to find any faults with it (expecially since I was still doing research to find some)

    I have to conceed this matchup to Biggs.
     
  11. The Great No One

    The Great No One Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    yea, i was waiting on it to go that route.
     
  12. s65horsey

    s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'll agree with Inty.

    Pilot 2!

    Corran is Sexy League:

    StarSlayer Squadron vs I'm supposed to work with WHO? Squadron (1-0)


    Wedge Antilles vs Han Solo


    Winner: Ouch, Wedge.

    I can't belive I got forced into commishing with the team I drafted league:

    I don't even like these people vs For the Honor of Greyskull (1-0)


    The Haras vs Jagged Fel


    Winner: I think Fel can bust this trump so I'm voting Fel.

    Playoff for 5th and 6th Place:
    The How Many Anakins Is This? Squad vs We're all Ewoks Now! (0-1)

    Shira Brie vs Ric Olie



    Arguments?
     
  13. The Great No One

    The Great No One Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    bah... humbug... can still take it to teams though, i guess.

    and that one's brie ten ways to tuesday.
     
  14. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    Ouch, indeed. Wedge over Han, Fel over the Haras, and Shira with no problem over Olie.
     
  15. adaml83

    adaml83 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Agree with Inty.
     
  16. s65horsey

    s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Pilot 4!

    Corran is Sexy League:

    StarSlayer Squadron vs I'm supposed to work with WHO? Squadron (2-0)


    Horton Salm Trumped with Zev Senesca vs Jacen Solo


    Arguments?

    I can't belive I got forced into commishing with the team I drafted league:

    I don't even like these people vs For the Honor of Greyskull (1-1)


    Arhul Narra vs Shawnkyr Nuruodo


    Winner: Eh, I'm voting Shawnkyr. I don't think people give the Chiss enough credit considering their species held back the Vong for years.

    Playoff for 5th and 6th Place:
    The How Many Anakins Is This? Squad vs We're all Ewoks Now! (1-1)

    Erisi Dlarit vs. Anakin Skywalker


    Winner: Anakin destroys the Bacta queen!
     
  17. The Great No One

    The Great No One Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    o_O

    well... that's somewhat unexpected.

    i'll get something up later.
     
  18. DarkEagle

    DarkEagle Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Umm, in the spirit of honesty, etc, etc. Ven shouldn't be in that trump. I sent Salm trump Zev.

    Just an FYI[face_peace]
     
  19. s65horsey

    s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    :oops:

    You're right, idk what I did there. I've fixed it.
     
  20. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    Shawnkyr, fairly easily. Anakin very easily.

    And I'm going with Jacen. Straight up, he's much much better than either of the two in that trump. And, the trump isn't that much more than the sum of its parts. It's not like we're talking lifelong wingmates or siblings, or a great Force bond or anything like that. Jacen's always been good at evasive maneuvers, and I have no doubt he can do that long enough to vape one of them, and then once it becomes one-on-one, he's not losing.
     
  21. s65horsey

    s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    In the interest of moving this along (and I'm home now so I'll be on daily for sure), I'm grudgingly voting for Jacen.

    Pilot 6!

    Corran is Sexy League:

    StarSlayer Squadron vs I'm supposed to work with WHO? Squadron (2-1)

    Nawara Ven TRUMPED w/ Nrin Vakil TRUMPED w/ Plourr Ilo vs. Garik Loran


    Winner: lol, Trump

    I can't belive I got forced into commishing with the team I drafted league:

    I don't even like these people vs For the Honor of Greyskull (2-1)

    The Haras (FORFEIT) vs Edor Crespin


    Winner: Crespin

    Playoff for 5th and 6th Place:
    The How Many Anakins Is This? Squad vs We're all Ewoks Now! (1-2)

    Asajj Ventress vs Obi-wan Kenobi


    Winner: Obi-wan Kenobi
     
  22. adaml83

    adaml83 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yeah agree.
     
  23. The Great No One

    The Great No One Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    that... may be the worst trump i've ever seen. o_O

    skillwise anyway. at least their all rogues.
     
  24. s65horsey

    s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Pilot 1!

    Corran is Sexy League:

    StarSlayer Squadron vs I'm supposed to work with WHO? Squadron (3-1)

    Zev and Horton trump(FORFEIT) vs. Elscol Loro


    Winner: Loro

    I can't belive I got forced into commishing with the team I drafted league:

    I don't even like these people vs For the Honor of Greyskull (1-3)

    Mara Jade Skywalker vs Baron Soontir Fel


    Winner: The Baron

    Playoff for 5th and 6th Place:
    The How Many Anakins Is This? Squad vs We're all Ewoks Now! (3-1)

    Anakin Solo vs. Turr Phennir


    Winner: Phennir
     
  25. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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