The 15th EUC Starfighter Draft: Ace Errant

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  1. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    whatever the beginning of that one where he actually decided to go sith was... i'd say the mind rubbing of ben is a pretty good spot.

    and i just remember it having been discussed before, in both this and the jedi draft, and it just didn't make enough sense to do it. i was for it at one point, til it was pointed out that there just isn't enough caedus to really justify it. but *shrugs* no biggie far as i'm concerned.
  2. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    I would say when Caedus declared his name at the end of Sacrifice, but if one wanted to make a good argument for earlier when he flies against Mara earlier in the book, I'd be willing to take that into account as well.
  3. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    The Vader split exists because Vader was around for a rather long time.
  4. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    if you're doing it there... caedus has what? half a year of existence? max? i mean, if you aren't even going to give him the whole nine book series, both jacen and caedus are absolutely useless for the purpose of this draft. caedus was still jacen... he even used the name with most people. yes, he was evil, but he was trying to save the galaxy from going down the tubes, and it is seriously suggested that it was to save luke from going dark in a later book. so it can definitely be argued that while the character changed... he was still that character. it is nowhere near the kind of split that you have with vader/anakin. vader existed for twenty odd years after he became vader. anakin had around twenty years as well, making it a rather even split, even if the best stuff for anakin as a fighter happened after he was vader. i'd really like to ask you to reconsider that split, because it really just doesn't make any sense.

    if you REALLY want to have it optional, then have it where you can pick, like you can in the jedi draft with revan. and jacen i think. sure, you may be losing the upper end of what he did as jacen, but he also isn't the cohesion nightmare that caedus is. as caedus you have everything, but someone that pretty well makes working with a group of people that know ANYTHING about him a pain.
  5. DarkEagle Jedi Grand Master

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    I am open for negotiations for trades because I'm tired of this spot :p
  6. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    After talking it over with Jello, I'm keeping Jacen and Caedus the same.

    Also no trade spot trading DarkEagle, not after the chaos that was last draft. However a pilot that you select with a high first rounder is rather good trade bait if you were to swap it for other pilots.
  7. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    coolio.

    and i'm really not digging being that low down honestly. always hated being below the eight spot. or above the four, for that matter.
  8. LordOblivion Jedi Grand Master

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  9. DarkEagle Jedi Grand Master

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    I know, I was thinking along the lines of I pick for you, you pick for me, trade later deal.

    A question though, what does the 2 trade limit refer to?
  10. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    1. LordOblivion- Baron Soontir Fel
    2. Despised1 On the Clock
    3. DarkEagle
    4. MASTERPRENN
    5. KenKenobi
    6. Evil_King_Wiggins
    7. DarthIntegral
    8. Shadow_of_Durron
    9. Trimaj
    10. New_York_Jedi
    11. Aragorn327
    12. The_Loyal_Imperial


    Draft Roster:

    "Backstabber" (Black 3)
    "Mauler" Mithel (Black 2)
    Aayla Secura
    Ace Azzameen
    Adi Gallia
    Alema Rar
    Alinn Varth
    Anakin Skywalker
    Anakin Solo
    Andoorni Hui
    Andurgo
    Anj Dahl
    Anni Capstan
    Aril Nunb
    Arvel Crynyd
    Asajj Ventress
    Asyr Sei?Lar
    Atril Tabianne
    Bela Hara
    Ben Quersey
    Ben Skywalker
    Biggs Darklighter
    BoShek
    Boba Fett
    Broak Vessery
    Brodie Coburn
    Bror Jace
    Cade Skywalker
    Carth Onasi
    Castin Donn
    Cavik Toth
    Charat Kraal
    Cheriss ke Hanadi
    Corran Horn
    Dak Ralter
    Darth Vader (separate from Anakin Skywalker)
    Dash Rendar
    Daviish "Pops" Krail
    Davijaan aka Odd Ball
    Derek "Hobbie" Klivian
    Dia Passik
    Dorset Konnair
    Edor Crespin
    Elassar Targon
    Erisi Dlarit
    Erk H'Arman
    Escol Loro
    Eshoka Tano
    Essara Till
    Eurrsk ?Grinder? Thri?ag
    Evir Derricote
    Falynn Sandskimmer
    Garik ?Face? Loran
    Garven Dries
    Gavin Darklighter
    Gunn Yage
    Han Solo
    Hohass ?Runt? Ekwesh
    Hondo Karr
    Horton Salm
    Ian Rim
    Imperial Ace
    Inyri Forge
    Iran Ryad
    Izal Waz
    Jacen Solo
    Jagged Fel
    Jaina Solo
    Jake Farell
    Jan Ors
    Jek Porkins
    Jesmin Ackbar
    Jhoram Bey
    Jocell
    Jon ?Dutch? Vander
    Kasan Moor
    Kell Tainer
    Keyan Farlander
    Khe-Jeen Slee
    Kissek Doran
    Kol Eyttyn
    Koobis ?Target? Nu
    Krasov Hara
    Kyle Katarn
    Kyp Durron
    Lando Calrissian
    Lara Nostil
    Lorrir
    Lowbacca
    Lujayne Forge
    Luke Skywalker
    Maarek Stele
    Mace Windu
    Mara Jade Skywalker
    Merrick Simm
    Miko Reglia
    Monia Gahan
    Myn Donos
    Narra (Renegade Flight Lead)
    Nawara Ven
    Nial Declann
    Nien Nunb
    Nrin Vakil
    Nym
    Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Octa Ramis
    Olin Garn
    Ooryl Qrygg
    Pash Cracken
    Penzak Kraal
    Peshk Vri?Syk
    Plo Koon
    Plourr Ilo
    Qorl
    Quinlan Vos
    Ran Kether
    Rhys Dallows
    Rhysati Ynr
    Ric Olie
    Riv Shiel
    Ronto
    Rookie One
    Saba Sebatyne
    Saesee Tiin
    Sarkli
    Shalla Nelprin
    Shawnkyr Nuruodo
    Shira Brie
    Syal Antilles
    Tahiri Veila
    Tal?dira
    Ten Numb
    Tesar Sebatyne
    Tetran Cowell
    Todra Mayn
    Ton Phanan
    Tsui Choi
    Turr Phennir
    Tycho Celchu
    Tyria Sarkin
    Valin Horn
    Villian Dance
    Vindoo "The Shooter" Barvel
    Voort ?Piggy? saBinring
    Wedge Antilles
    Wes Janson
    Wurth Skidder
    Zekk
    Zev Senesca
  11. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    Yeah that's fine, although you'd probably want to clear it with me before hand just so you don't get burned with a pilot you don't want if it's a lopsided deal.

    Just the number of trades each GM can do. You can trade multiple pilots in one trade, but you get two trades total, just to cut down on insanity.
  12. PRENNTACULAR VIP

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    Keeping Jacen and Caedus makes sense, IMO.
  13. Mikaboshi Force Ghost

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    Well, I am going to take the most obvious road I can find...

    Luke Skywalker

    Yay Me! Starring Luke Skywalker!

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  14. KenKenobi Force Ghost

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    Totally agree with Jacen/Caedus staying the same, we just had that same discussion in the Jedi Draft. Though I refuse to believe they're the same person. :(

    And lol, please keep that team name, Despised. Including the colors. :p

    Also this just in, LordOblivion is trading Soontir Fel, then disappearing from the boards until the next draft.
  15. Mikaboshi Force Ghost

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  16. DarkEagle Jedi Grand Master

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    I guess I'll take Wedge
  17. s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod

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    You could be a little more excited about that. :p
  18. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    1. LordOblivion- Baron Soontir Fel
    2. Despised1- Luke Skywalker
    3. DarkEagle- Wedge Antilles
    4. MASTERPRENN On the Clock
    5. KenKenobi
    6. Evil_King_Wiggins
    7. DarthIntegral
    8. Shadow_of_Durron
    9. Trimaj
    10. New_York_Jedi
    11. Aragorn327
    12. The_Loyal_Imperial


    Draft Roster:

    "Backstabber" (Black 3)
    "Mauler" Mithel (Black 2)
    Aayla Secura
    Ace Azzameen
    Adi Gallia
    Alema Rar
    Alinn Varth
    Anakin Skywalker
    Anakin Solo
    Andoorni Hui
    Andurgo
    Anj Dahl
    Anni Capstan
    Aril Nunb
    Arvel Crynyd
    Asajj Ventress
    Asyr Sei?Lar
    Atril Tabianne
    Bela Hara
    Ben Quersey
    Ben Skywalker
    Biggs Darklighter
    BoShek
    Boba Fett
    Broak Vessery
    Brodie Coburn
    Bror Jace
    Cade Skywalker
    Carth Onasi
    Castin Donn
    Cavik Toth
    Charat Kraal
    Cheriss ke Hanadi
    Corran Horn
    Dak Ralter
    Darth Vader (separate from Anakin Skywalker)
    Dash Rendar
    Daviish "Pops" Krail
    Davijaan aka Odd Ball
    Derek "Hobbie" Klivian
    Dia Passik
    Dorset Konnair
    Edor Crespin
    Elassar Targon
    Erisi Dlarit
    Erk H'Arman
    Escol Loro
    Eshoka Tano
    Essara Till
    Eurrsk ?Grinder? Thri?ag
    Evir Derricote
    Falynn Sandskimmer
    Garik ?Face? Loran
    Garven Dries
    Gavin Darklighter
    Gunn Yage
    Han Solo
    Hohass ?Runt? Ekwesh
    Hondo Karr
    Horton Salm
    Ian Rim
    Imperial Ace
    Inyri Forge
    Iran Ryad
    Izal Waz
    Jacen Solo
    Jagged Fel
    Jaina Solo
    Jake Farell
    Jan Ors
    Jek Porkins
    Jesmin Ackbar
    Jhoram Bey
    Jocell
    Jon ?Dutch? Vander
    Kasan Moor
    Kell Tainer
    Keyan Farlander
    Khe-Jeen Slee
    Kissek Doran
    Kol Eyttyn
    Koobis ?Target? Nu
    Krasov Hara
    Kyle Katarn
    Kyp Durron
    Lando Calrissian
    Lara Nostil
    Lorrir
    Lowbacca
    Lujayne Forge
    Maarek Stele
    Mace Windu
    Mara Jade Skywalker
    Merrick Simm
    Miko Reglia
    Monia Gahan
    Myn Donos
    Narra (Renegade Flight Lead)
    Nawara Ven
    Nial Declann
    Nien Nunb
    Nrin Vakil
    Nym
    Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Octa Ramis
    Olin Garn
    Ooryl Qrygg
    Pash Cracken
    Penzak Kraal
    Peshk Vri?Syk
    Plo Koon
    Plourr Ilo
    Qorl
    Quinlan Vos
    Ran Kether
    Rhys Dallows
    Rhysati Ynr
    Ric Olie
    Riv Shiel
    Ronto
    Rookie One
    Saba Sebatyne
    Saesee Tiin
    Sarkli
    Shalla Nelprin
    Shawnkyr Nuruodo
    Shira Brie
    Syal Antilles
    Tahiri Veila
    Tal?dira
    Ten Numb
    Tesar Sebatyne
    Tetran Cowell
    Todra Mayn
    Ton Phanan
    Tsui Choi
    Turr Phennir
    Tycho Celchu
    Tyria Sarkin
    Valin Horn
    Villian Dance
    Vindoo "The Shooter" Barvel
    Voort ?Piggy? saBinring
    Wes Janson
    Wurth Skidder
    Zekk
    Zev Senesca
  19. PRENNTACULAR VIP

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    Gimme Jaina. She's better than Wedge and almost as good as Luke.
  20. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    well, already something strange happening. go figure.
  21. PRENNTACULAR VIP

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    Go figure your face. Jaina's a freaking beast!
  22. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    was there flying in vortex that i don't know about? if not i know everything she's done, and no way is she better than wedge, or any of the other usual top five. she's like seventh really.
  23. PRENNTACULAR VIP

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    That's only because I haven't argued for her yet. I think Wedge is overrated, and Jaina underrated.

    There's been multiple times in multiple books lately where Jaina has been mentioned (realistically) in the same breath as Luke, concerning piloting skill and force use. On top of that, she has amazing experience and amazing feats unmatched by Wedge or anybody under him in terms of skill.

    :)
  24. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    ummm... not so much? let's just say no...
  25. Mikaboshi Force Ghost

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    Wow, mentioned in the same breath? Dude really? That counts for like....well....almost nothing. :p
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