The 15th EUC Starfighter Draft: Ace Errant

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  1. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    guess i'm just biased against lando then, because other than that one time, he's never impressed me as a pilot.
  2. Dinkus_Mayhem Jedi Knight

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    And what has Syal done that has you all googly eyed?

    That one thing from Lando is far more impressive than anything Syal has shown. Even if you completely ignore everything else he has done as well as Lando's almost unmatched luck in the SW universe, huge tactical edge, decades more experience and his unorthodox style that one single showing of skill from Lando is still more than a match for any of Syal's showings.

    I have yet to hear what makes Syal so impressive.
  3. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    don't think i ever said i found syal to be impressive. think she's probably somewhat overrated too. just think lando is more so.

    and what good is tactics going to do in a completely open 1v1 situation? i mean, there's only so much that can be done for pete's sake.

    here's a question... has lando EVER even flown a fighter? i mean, han has, and dash has, but lando? i mean, it does change things up just a little bit.

    regardless, i'll take the person who actually made it into the military and was put into a new type of fighter than a guy who hasn't ever even, to my knowledge, flown a fighter. sooo... *shrugs*

    part of why i don't know why in the world i picked boba fett. that was a stupid move on my part.
  4. Dinkus_Mayhem Jedi Knight

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    Oh no, here we go with this line of thinking again. If Lando can dogfight and run through an explosive asteroid field without the benefit of sensors in a cumbersome cargo ship and come out better against 2 fighter squadrons, I think he would do just fine in something actually built for dogfighting.

    And I would take the guy who was offered a permanent commission in the Tanaab military for his combat actions, given a pass all the way up to General of the Alliance military (based on the suggestion by Han and his prior actions) and then asked to train the pilots of that same military and also asked to lead the 2nd DS strike (with people like Wedge following his orders) over someone who really has done little more than go through academy training, tailed Han and Wedge for a bit before running into their junk, and was stashed away in a test squadron.

    The superior tactical skill and ability to improvise in the heat of battle, experience, luck and skill that Lando has shown is far better than the questionable 2-3 showings of skill being cited on behalf of Syal. She doesn't have the experience and proven (time and time again) ability to tactically outwit others or improvise in battle, nor does she have the luck (and skill) that Lando has shown.

    But yeah, that stuff means nothing. Especially not when facing someone who has the 1-2 punch of a name and training from popular pilots...even when that training has for the most part not been tested or proven in heated combat situations.
  5. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    *shrugs* i'm done. i'm not really up to arguing or doing any research to argue it. so whatever.
  6. DarkEagle Jedi Grand Master

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    GG5, however, is canon, so Lando did pilot the Falcon and did destroy the Exy's hanger bay

    Without actually looking for examples: B-wing, exiting occupied Yuuzhan'tar orbit, pursued by a least a frigate and coralskippers, NJO Enemy Lines
  7. Dinkus_Mayhem Jedi Knight

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  8. adaml83 Force Ghost

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    It is but what I'm going off is the 2004 version of RotJ, and checked several Wookie pages to see if it made any mention of it and they didn't. That's why I call it into question.
  9. Dinkus_Mayhem Jedi Knight

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    Yet it is still canon regardless of if it is on wookie or in the film, right? A lot of stuff happened during the time of the movies that didn't appear on screen, yet it still happened. Canon is canon, you can't just pick and choose what events you want to accept or disregard.
  10. DarkEagle Jedi Grand Master

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    As others are wont to point out: wookiepedia =/= canon

    Syal's actions at the Battle of Centerpoint are only mentioned in one book as well ;)
  11. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    Finally in internet range. I was camping in the Adirondacks and i'd meant to come back last Monday but we all decided to stay another week. I'd actually forgotten about this thing until thurs.


    On the basis of the Lando and Syal arguement. The decision has been made and made for days now. If you want to continue with the merits of one over the other take it to PM.

    As for teams I'm going with Shurron Inty and LI. I'll elaborate when I'm off mobile and on my netbook
  12. Dinkus_Mayhem Jedi Knight

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  13. GrandAdmiralJello Emperor: Community & Lit

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    2
    1 (Inty)
    2 (LI)

    I don't know who owns the teams in the first match, sorry.
  14. DarkEagle Jedi Grand Master

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  15. adaml83 Force Ghost

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    Ehh, I guess Prenn, mainly because of the top 2 on his team, that said if you want to argue, go ahead.
  16. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    Just a heads up, due to some personal matters, adam will be commishing the rest of the draft. I'll still be a judge, however.
  17. adaml83 Force Ghost

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    Ok next round

    The Most Epic Finals Ever

    Better on Blu-Ray Squadron vs Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Squadron



    My Team's Only 6 Points Out of First (Third Place Match)

    Yay Me! Starring Luke Skywalker! vs Attachment is a Jedi Code Violation



    This is my Team, Team gets the "I can hit better than Jose Bautista" trophy. [image=http://fantasyfootballgoat.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/armchairqb_mg_8156.jpg]


    Old Fossil Squadron gets the "Quick Pronounce the name of the SS for the Indians" trophy. [image=http://www.atomiclaserlab.com/San-Diego-Trophies/bad-golfer-trophy-san-diego.jpg]


    I was There when Sith Returned to Korriban (Seventh Place Match)

    Trim's Team vs The Integrity of Bruce Pearl Squadron for the "Tressel Sweater Vest" trophy.



    Can Anyone Explain why Hockey's Still Playing (Ninth Place Trophy)

    Red Rover Red Rover, Please Send Cade Over vs Mmmm! Cheese for "Corran's Lusankya Loincloth" trophy.



    Helios Squadron wins the "I got a Vacation on Alder...aww crap." trophy.

    Failing With Style wins the "The chips say you're a cheater, cheater pumpkin eater!" trophy.

    Numbers in 24!
  18. DarkEagle Jedi Grand Master

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    Good luck NYJ (though hopefully less good than mine;))
  19. adaml83 Force Ghost

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    Oh and besides failure to turning in numbers means that they'll be simmed, you'll also be Jello's Yes Man forever.
  20. adaml83 Force Ghost

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    I'm still missing some numbers from 4 GMs, however due to the current time and that I got back from work not too long ago, I'll give the rest of you until morning before I sim and get the first matches underway.
  21. adaml83 Force Ghost

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    Currently working on the matches right now, and I'm still laughing at a certain matchup.... You'll see.

    First match, the Number 8!

    Better on Blu Ray Squadron vs Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Squadron

    Face Loran vs Falynn Sandskimmer


    Yay Me! Starring Luke Skywalker! vs Attachment is a Jedi Code Violation

    Octo Ramis vs Izal Waz trumped w/ Krasov Hara & Tyria Sarkin


    Trim's Team vs The Integrity of Bruce Pearl

    Narra vs Hobbie TRUMPED with Peshk Vri?Syk


    Red Rover, Red Rover, Please Send Cade Over vs Mmm! Cheese

    Jek Porkins vs Maarek Stele


    Face, Trump, Trump, Stele
  22. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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  23. adaml83 Force Ghost

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    Next up, the number 4

    Better on Blu Ray Squadron (1) vs Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Squadron (0)

    Alinn Varth vs Vindoo "The Shooter" Barvel


    Yay Me! Starring Luke Skywalker! (0) vs Attachment is a Jedi Code Violation (1)

    Odd Ball vs Mara Jade Skywalker


    Trim's Team (0) vs The Integrity of Bruce Pearl (1)

    Evir Derricote vs Plourr


    Red Rover, Red Rover, Please Send Cade Over (0) vs Mmm! Cheese (1)

    Asyr Sei'lar vs Erisi Dlarit

    Varth, MJS, Arguments?, Asyr
  24. New_York_Jedi Force Ghost

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    I'm not sure we have more than circumstantial evidence for either of these pilots (have we seen Varth do anything?). And that evidence is stronger for the Shooter (Living Legend v. Rogue flight leader).
  25. Dinkus_Mayhem Jedi Knight

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    adaml83, you have the score wrong for Yay Me! Starring Luke Skywalker! (0) vs Attachment is a Jedi Code Violation (1)

    I won the first match.

    Also, in the 2nd match, MJS is on my team...not Ken's.

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