The 16th EUC Starfighter Draft: A Draft of Ice and Fire

Discussion in 'EU Community' started by Point Given, Sep 5, 2011.

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  1. s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod

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    R2 is part of Luke's X-wing, so he's an auto draft is you get Luke.
  2. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    i was talking about separately.
  3. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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  4. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    Well, you were right as always, Horsey.
  5. DarthIntegral Chosen One

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    lol

    I'd make a comment, but I doubt it would really matter. The thing about debate is you often get so entrenched in defending your own view that you become unwilling to seriously consider what the other side is offering. So, debate doesn't happen, just a spouting of talking points. And, as this "debate" has already regressed to adding foolish examples for emphasis, I'd say we're way past the point of honest debate.

    Now, if it were up to me, I'd let Ship in. It's not like it's going to be the Omni of this draft (if you get that reference, you probably need to get a life ... or at least some fresh air). Ship is quite different from a droid ship, in that it doesn't need programmed, and is quite different from, say, C3-PO in that it doesn't just fire based on luck and circumstance.

    And, you know what, if Ship is that hard to judge in this draft, don't let it back in for future drafts. But, really, what's the harm in trying?
  6. KenKenobi Force Ghost

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    Oh come on Jello, after so many years denigrating it, why start now?


    Also, everything that Inty just said. Especially the Onimi part.

    *goes to get a life*
  7. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    ya know, i was being serious, but no one was actually commenting on anything i said or answering my questions as to why it's different. inty, you're really the first one to do so. but again, it's a training tool, like a holocron, how is it applicable? no one has said a thing about this. it is not sentient in even the same way a droid is, it doesn't have free will. ship is a tool, like boba fett's ship. that's what i've been comparing it to the most. it can fly completely autonomously, it can dogfight, but in the end it's still just the ship doing it. it isn't a separate entity, a pilot. if someone can explain why i'm wrong in looking at it like this (and yes, i have read all of the current series), please enlighten me.

    and i can think of two things the omni comment might be talking about, and i'm sure i know of at least two others that aren't coming to mind... >_> yea...

    EDIT

    onimi just reminded me of something. ship reminds me very strongly of the sekotan ships. they were "sentient" enough to override their pilots decision to attack, and if i'm remembering right they essentially flew themselves. they just worked better with a pilot than without one, which is essentially the same thing with ship. what i'm guessing, since ship can't actually leave abeloth's control, is that she's so freaking strong (as we've already seen repeatedly) that she is basically controlling ship even from such an extreme distance. kinda like palps influencing the entire imperial navy so they operated more efficiently.

  8. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    Could Slave (insert number here) commune with Boba Fett? Could they have conversations?
  9. s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod

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    Luke only thinks it isn't sentient. I'm not sure that it really has been confirmed that it isn't. It acts way more like it is.
  10. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    ship never really seemed terribly sentient to me. i mean, a conversation can be held with a holocron after all. does that make it sentient?

    anyway, whatever. apparently this is a pointless quibble, so just forget it.
  11. Dinkus_Mayhem Jedi Knight

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    Still agreeing with Trim, but anyway, are we going to start this thing or not?
  12. New_York_Jedi Force Ghost

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    sorry all, I was without internet for a couple days.


    I don't want to go first. Randomize away.
  13. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    Added new pilots, including Ship. I didn't see the "smoking gun" to disqualify him, so to speak, and like Inty said, he may not be around in future drafts.

    Also changed Narra to Arhul Narra since that's always bothered me for some reason.

    Horsey PM'd her picks to me since she's gone all weekend in the chance she picked early. Rather prescient since she's going first :p. She's picking Wedge


    First Round:

    1. s65horsey- Wedge Antilles
    2. New_York_Jedi- On the Clock
    3. Dinkus_Mayhem
    4. Trimaj
    5. The_Loyal_Imperial
    6. whiteeagle
    7. Shadow_of_Durron
    8. DarkEagle
    9. CPL_Macja
    10. RX_Sith
    11. MASTERPRENN
    12. TypoCelchu

    Draft Roster:

    "Backstabber" (Black 3)
    "Mauler" Mithel (Black 2)
    Aayla Secura
    Ace Azzameen
    Adi Gallia
    Alema Rar
    Alinn Varth
    Anakin Skywalker
    Anakin Solo
    Andoorni Hui
    Andurgo
    Anj Dahl
    Anni Capstan
    Arhul Narra
    Aril Nunb
    Arvel Crynyd
    Asajj Ventress
    Asyr Sei?Lar
    Atril Tabianne
    Bela Hara
    Ben Quersey
    Ben Skywalker
    Biggs Darklighter
    BoShek
    Boba Fett
    Broak Vessery
    Brodie Coburn
    Bror Jace
    Cade Skywalker
    Carth Onasi
    Castin Donn
    Cavik Toth
    Charat Kraal
    Cheriss ke Hanadi
    Corran Horn
    Dak Ralter
    Darth Vader (separate from Anakin Skywalker)
    Dash Rendar
    Daviish "Pops" Krail
    Davijaan aka Odd Ball
    Derek "Hobbie" Klivian
    Dia Passik
    Dorset Konnair
    Edor Crespin
    Elassar Targon
    Erisi Dlarit
    Erk H'Arman
    Escol Loro
    Eshoka Tano
    Essara Till
    Eurrsk ?Grinder? Thri?ag
    Evir Derricote
    Falynn Sandskimmer
    Garik ?Face? Loran
    Garven Dries
    Gavin Darklighter
    Gavyn Sykes
    Gunn Yage
    Han Solo
    Hohass ?Runt? Ekwesh
    Hondo Karr
    Horton Salm
    Ian Rim
    Imperial Ace
    Inyri Forge
    Iran Ryad
    Izal Waz
    Jacen Solo
    Jagged Fel
    Jaina Solo
    Jake Farell
    Jan Ors
    Jek Porkins
    Jesmin Ackbar
    Jhoram Bey
    Jocell
    Jon ?Dutch? Vander
    Juno Eclipse
    Kasan Moor
    Kell Tainer
    Keyan Farlander
    Khe-Jeen Slee
    Kissek Doran
    Kol Eyttyn
    Koobis ?Target? Nu
    Kral Nevil
    Krasov Hara
    Kyle Katarn
    Kyp Durron
    Lando Calrissian
    Lara Nostil
    Lensi
    Lorrir
    Lowbacca
    Lujayne Forge
    Luke Skywalker
    Maarek Stele
    Mace Windu
    Mara Jade Skywalker
    Merrick Simm
    Miko Reglia
    Monia Gahan
    Myn Donos
    Nawara Ven
    Nial Declann
    Nien Nunb
    Nrin Vakil
    Nym
    Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Octa Ramis
    Olin Garn
    Ooryl Qrygg
    Pash Cracken
    Penzak Kraal
    Peshk Vri?Syk
    Plo Koon
    Plourr Ilo
    Qorl
    Quinlan Vos
    Ran Kether
    Rhys Dallows
    Rhysati Ynr
    Ric Olie
    Riv Shiel
    Ronto
    Rookie One
    Saba Sebatyne
    Saesee Tiin
    Sarkli
    Shalla Nelprin
    Shawnkyr Nuruodo
    Ship
    Shira Brie
    Soontir Fel
    Syal Antilles
    Tahiri Veila
    Tal?dira
    Ten Numb
    Tesar Sebatyne
    Tetran Cowell
    Todra Mayn
    Ton Phanan
    Tsui Choi
    Turr Phennir
    Tycho Celchu
    Tyria Sarkin
    Valin Horn
    Villian Dance
    Vindoo "The Shooter" Barvel
    Voort ?Piggy? saBinring
    Wes Janson
    Wurth Skidder
    Zekk
    Zev Senesca
  14. TypoCelchu Force Ghost

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  15. New_York_Jedi Force Ghost

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    Sure glad I decided not to pick first!


    edit: Luke.
  16. Dinkus_Mayhem Jedi Knight

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    Yup, that really helped you out. Atleast you still got Luke though right?

    I'll take the good Baron Fel.
  17. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    uuuuuuugggh...

    do i really have to?

    well, having vader is a first i guess. let's go crappy imperial team number one. or is it two?
  18. The Loyal Imperial Manager Emeritus

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    We are bottom buddies!
  20. whiteeagle Force Ghost

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  21. Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Grand Master

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    Eh, Tycho.

    I mean, uh, YEAH! That's right, REAL pilots, man! None of this "force" jiggery-pokery for me. No sir...
  22. DarkEagle Jedi Grand Master

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  23. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    First Round:

    1. s65horsey- Wedge Antilles
    2. New_York_Jedi- Luke Skywalker
    3. Dinkus_Mayhem- Soontir Fel
    4. Trimaj- Darth Vader
    5. The_Loyal_Imperial- Jaina Solo
    6. whiteeagle- Anakin Skywalker
    7. Shadow_of_Durron- Tycho Celchu
    8. DarkEagle- Gavin Darklighter
    9. CPL_Macja- On the Clock
    10. RX_Sith
    11. MASTERPRENN
    12. TypoCelchu

    Second Round:

    1. TypoCelchu
    2. MASTERPRENN
    3. RX_Sith
    4. CPL_Macja
    5. DarkEagle
    6. Shadow_of_Durron
    7. whiteeagle
    8. The_Loyal_Imperial
    9. Trimaj
    10. Dinkus_Mayhem
    11. New_York_Jedi
    12. s65horsey


    Draft Roster:

    "Backstabber" (Black 3)
    "Mauler" Mithel (Black 2)
    Aayla Secura
    Ace Azzameen
    Adi Gallia
    Alema Rar
    Alinn Varth
    Anakin Solo
    Andoorni Hui
    Andurgo
    Anj Dahl
    Anni Capstan
    Arhul Narra
    Aril Nunb
    Arvel Crynyd
    Asajj Ventress
    Asyr Sei?Lar
    Atril Tabianne
    Bela Hara
    Ben Quersey
    Ben Skywalker
    Biggs Darklighter
    BoShek
    Boba Fett
    Broak Vessery
    Brodie Coburn
    Bror Jace
    Cade Skywalker
    Carth Onasi
    Castin Donn
    Cavik Toth
    Charat Kraal
    Cheriss ke Hanadi
    Corran Horn
    Dak Ralter
    Dash Rendar
    Daviish "Pops" Krail
    Davijaan aka Odd Ball
    Derek "Hobbie" Klivian
    Dia Passik
    Dorset Konnair
    Edor Crespin
    Elassar Targon
    Erisi Dlarit
    Erk H'Arman
    Escol Loro
    Eshoka Tano
    Essara Till
    Eurrsk ?Grinder? Thri?ag
    Evir Derricote
    Falynn Sandskimmer
    Garik ?Face? Loran
    Garven Dries
    Gavyn Sykes
    Gunn Yage
    Han Solo
    Hohass ?Runt? Ekwesh
    Hondo Karr
    Horton Salm
    Ian Rim
    Imperial Ace
    Inyri Forge
    Iran Ryad
    Izal Waz
    Jacen Solo
    Jagged Fel
    Jake Farell
    Jan Ors
    Jek Porkins
    Jesmin Ackbar
    Jhoram Bey
    Jocell
    Jon ?Dutch? Vander
    Juno Eclipse
    Kasan Moor
    Kell Tainer
    Keyan Farlander
    Khe-Jeen Slee
    Kissek Doran
    Kol Eyttyn
    Koobis ?Target? Nu
    Kral Nevil
    Krasov Hara
    Kyle Katarn
    Kyp Durron
    Lando Calrissian
    Lara Nostil
    Lensi
    Lorrir
    Lowbacca
    Lujayne Forge
    Maarek Stele
    Mace Windu
    Mara Jade Skywalker
    Merrick Simm
    Miko Reglia
    Monia Gahan
    Myn Donos
    Nawara Ven
    Nial Declann
    Nien Nunb
    Nrin Vakil
    Nym
    Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Octa Ramis
    Olin Garn
    Ooryl Qrygg
    Pash Cracken
    Penzak Kraal
    Peshk Vri?Syk
    Plo Koon
    Plourr Ilo
    Qorl
    Quinlan Vos
    Ran Kether
    Rhys Dallows
    Rhysati Ynr
    Ric Olie
    Riv Shiel
    Ronto
    Rookie One
    Saba Sebatyne
    Saesee Tiin
    Sarkli
    Shalla Nelprin
    Shawnkyr Nuruodo
    Ship
    Shira Brie
    Syal Antilles
    Tahiri Veila
    Tal?dira
    Ten Numb
    Tesar Sebatyne
    Tetran Cowell
    Todra Mayn
    Ton Phanan
    Tsui Choi
    Turr Phennir
    Tyria Sarkin
    Valin Horn
    Villian Dance
    Vindoo "The Shooter" Barvel
    Voort ?Piggy? saBinring
    Wes Janson
    Wurth Skidder
    Zekk
    Zev Senesca
  24. CPL_Macja Force Ghost

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  25. RX_Sith C&G Game Host

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