Games The 19th EUC Starfighter Draft: Thank You Aaron Allston

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  1. RX_Sith C&G Game Host

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    Tosche Station Power Converters
    1. Wedge Antilles
    2. Saesee Tiin
    3. Derek "Hobbie" Klivian
    4. Myn Donos
    5. Kasan Moor

    @Mitth_Fisto
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  2. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    asyr is really the only one of those that have that much going for them. most of them are shown very little as they aren't main characters (falynn and piggy), or only have the one book (vil). it's just hard to actually prove how good they are.

    also, you'd be surprised how much farrell actually has going for him. i know when someone actually delved into it, and made a point of getting him some respect i wasn't expecting what was brought up.
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  3. heels1785 Jedi Draft and Streak for Colors Commissioner

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    Thanks for the breakdowns, Trim. My first SF draft, so I'm learning the ropes.
  4. Mitth_Fisto Force Ghost

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    Ooga Chaka

    1. Tycho Celchu
    2. Shawnkyr Nuruodo
    3. Corran Horn
    4. Hohass "Runt" Ekwesh
    5. Voort "Piggy" saBinring

    @CrazyOldHermit

    Thanks for the workup Trim, this is the first time through the grinder (that I can recall anyway) and Honestly? I am aiming for wild card ;)
  5. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    no problem guys. this isn't like most of the other drafts, i pretty much know these characters at this point so i don't really have to do much research for it. thankfully.
  6. Mitth_Fisto Force Ghost

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    Piggy by the way became more a main character with the latest X-wing novel. Does that affect his standing any to you to be more on a level with Asyr?
  7. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    i'll have to look at it. i haven't had a chance to read mercy kill yet, so that's something you'll want to bring up with any of those characters that you guys have. i'll try and read it, but can't make any promises.
  8. CrazyOldHermit Vice-Chancellor of the EUC Senate

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    The Curious Case of Captain Cardboard

    1. Anakin Skywalker
    2. Jagged Fel
    3. Obi-Wan Kenobi
    4. Saba Sebatyne
    5. Lowbacca

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  9. Mitth_Fisto Force Ghost

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    Beware the dancing Gamorrians :p
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  10. Runjedirun Chancellor of the EUC Senate

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    Magic Pants 1. Wes Janson
    2. Mara Jade Skywalker
    3. Lando Calrissian
    4. Plourr Ilo
    5. Asyr Sei'Lar

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  11. Point Given Mod of Literature and Community

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    Updating the list

    First Round

    1 .Mikaboshi - Luke Skywalker
    2 .RX_Sith - Wedge Antilles
    3. Mitth_Fisto - Tycho Celchu
    4. CrazyOldHermit - Anakin Skywalker
    5. Runjedirun - Wes Janson
    6. DarkEagle - Soontir Fel
    7. heels1785 - Darth Vader
    8. s65horsey - Jaina Solo

    Second Round

    1. s65horsey - Maarek Stele
    2. heels1785 - Han Solo
    3. DarkEagle - Gavin Darklighter
    4. Runjedirun - Mara Jade Skywalker
    5. CrazyOldHermit - Jagged Fel
    6. Mitth_Fisto - Shawnkyr Nuruodo
    7. RX_Sith - Saesee Tiin
    8. Mikaboshi - Pash Cracken

    Third Round

    1 .Mikaboshi - Kyp Durron
    2 .RX_Sith - Derek "Hobbie" Klivian
    3. Mitth_Fisto - Corran Horn
    4. CrazyOldHermit - Obi-Wan Kenobi
    5. Runjedirun - Lando Calrissian
    6. DarkEagle - Keyan Farlander
    7. heels1785 - Turr Phennir
    8. s65horsey - Jacen Solo

    Fourth Round

    1. s65horsey - Ooryl Qyrgg
    2. heels1785 - Adi Gallia
    3. DarkEagle - Inyri Forge
    4. Runjedirun - Plourr Ilo
    5. CrazyOldHermit - Saba Sebatyne
    6. Mitth_Fisto - Hohass "Runt" Ekwesh
    7. RX_Sith - Myn Donos
    8. Mikaboshi - Aril Nunb

    Fifth Round

    1 .Mikaboshi - Jake Farrell
    2 .RX_Sith - Kasan Moor
    3. Mitth_Fisto - Voort "Piggy" saBinring
    4. CrazyOldHermit - Lowbacca
    5. Runjedirun - Asyr Sei'lar
    6. DarkEagle - On the Clock
    7. heels1785 -
    8. s65horsey -

    Draft Roster:

    "Backstabber" (Black 3)
    "Mauler" Mithel (Black 2)
    Aayla Secura
    Ace Azzameen
    Alema Rar
    Alinn Varth
    Anakin Solo
    Andoorni Hui
    Andurgo
    Anj Dahl
    Anni Capstan
    Arhul Narra
    Arvel Crynyd
    Asajj Ventress
    Atril Tabianne
    Avan Beruss
    Bela Hara
    Ben Quersey
    Ben Skywalker
    Biggs Darklighter
    BoShek
    Boba Fett
    Broak Vessery
    Brodie Coburn
    Bror Jace
    Cade Skywalker
    Carth Onasi
    Castin Donn
    Cavik Toth
    Charat Kraal
    Cheriss ke Hanadi
    Dak Ralter
    Dash Rendar
    Daviish "Pops" Krail
    Davijaan aka Odd Ball
    Dia Passik
    Dorset Konnair
    Edor Crespin
    Elassar Targon
    Erisi Dlarit
    Erk H'Arman
    Escol Loro
    Eshoka Tano
    Essara Till
    Eurrsk "Grinder" Thri'ag
    Evir Derricote
    Falynn Sandskimmer
    Feylis Ardele
    Garik "Face" Loran
    Garven Dries
    Gavyn Sykes
    Gunn Yage
    Hondo Karr
    Horton Salm
    Ian Rim
    Imperial Ace
    Iran Ryad
    Izal Waz
    Jan Ors
    Jek Porkins
    Jesmin Ackbar
    Jesmin Tainer
    Jhoram Bey
    Jocell
    Jon "Dutch" Vander
    Juno Eclipse
    Kell Tainer
    Khe-Jeen Slee
    Kissek Doran
    Kol Eyttyn
    Koobis "Target" Nu
    Kral Nevil
    Krasov Hara
    Kyle Katarn
    Lara Nostil
    Lensi
    Lorrir
    Lujayne Forge
    Mace Windu
    Merrick Simm
    Miko Reglia
    Monia Gahan
    Myri Antilles
    Nawara Ven
    Nial Declann
    Nien Nunb
    Nrin Vakil
    Nym
    Octa Ramis
    Olin Garn
    Penzak Kraal
    Peshk Vri'Syk
    Plo Koon
    Qorl
    Quinlan Vos
    Ran Kether
    Rhys Dallows
    Rhysati Ynr
    Ric Olie
    Riv Shiel
    Ronto
    Rookie One
    Sarkli
    Shalla Nelprin
    Shira Brie
    Syal Antilles
    Tahiri Veila
    Tal'dira
    Ten Numb
    Tesar Sebatyne
    Tetran Cowell
    Todra Mayn
    Ton Phanan
    Tsui Choi
    Tyria Sarkin
    Valin Horn
    Villian Dance
    Vindoo "The Shooter" Barvel
    Wurth Skidder
    Zekk
    Zev Senesca
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  12. KenKenobi Force Ghost

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    lol Trim the shade you throw rivals Kashyyyk
  13. Mitth_Fisto Force Ghost

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    So which is it then? Because if I can do two mega trades I can see this being a bit more interesting ;)

    @DarkEagle just because my window isn't showing the previous tag working.
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  14. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    i believe the general consensus was that it should be two full trades.

    hardly ken... hardly.
  15. Mikaboshi Force Ghost

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    The trade rule is stupid, we trade like crazy in the other drafts and there is NO issue at all with it. The problem isn't the number of trades Ken made, the problem is that people were offended for some reason by it.

    The trade rule should be gotten rid of, it fails to prevent a problem that never existed, but causes real problems that need not exist.
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  16. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    it was that the trades were approved at all... there was no oversight on it, every trade was just approved. i've had far, far more even trades vetoed in the past. what needs to happen is for the commish to actually ensure that the trades are, ya know, somewhat fair instead of the silliness that ken pulled off.
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  17. Mikaboshi Force Ghost

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    That is a problem with the commissioner. You don't fix that problem by creating a stupid rule that caps the number of trades but doesn't address the unbalanced trade situation, that part is still up to the full discretion of the commissioner. What one person sees as balanced may appear to be unbalanced to another.

    So what did the rule actually fix? Nothing.

    Also, stop being such a blatant hater. He got some good trades, deal.
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  18. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    han for what amounts to a third round pick is utter BS no matter what's going on. period. ken pulled that trade of.
  19. Mikaboshi Force Ghost

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    And? That is a problem with the commissioner letting unbalanced trades through, and has nothing to do with the number of attempted trades in a draft or the ability to trade draft picks.

    You don't fix one "problem" by creating another and not addressing the original issue.

    Really, it just sounds like a bunch of sour grapes. It is a game, he got a good trade, big whoop.
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  20. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    not disagreeing with you. i believe i stated that the problem was because of commish's not really balancing out trades so much. i've been on record in the past that i think the 2 trade rule is just stupid and needs to go. i hoped it had this time, but didn't actually look til just a second ago. we have no disagreement here mika, i'm just saying that there were some really serious shenanigans in that draft.

    EDIT

    oh god... that wasn't even remotely the worst trade in that draft either.

    Adi Gallia, 4th and 5th round picks for Maarek Stele, Wes Janson and an 8th round pick.
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  21. Mikaboshi Force Ghost

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    Don't blame Ken though, it wasn't his fault the trade was accepted. I was just on the bad end of a trade in the comic draft, no way was Shaggy Man in exchange for a 4th round draft pick fair in hindsight, but it happened and I ain't going to whine about it....maybe kick myself in the ass....but it isn't @DarkEagle 's fault he got in on the good end of that trade, just like it isn't Ken's fault that he got the good end of a trade.
  22. KenKenobi Force Ghost

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    Hahahahaha keep going this is hilarious
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  23. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    good god man, we're saying the same thing!

    on the shaggyman thing... i'm pretty sure no one else really knew much about him, or what was fair relative to him. so i'm not precisely sure anyone could make a judgement call there at the time.
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  24. Mikaboshi Force Ghost

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    I know that we agree on most of it, but you just seem to be really bitter towards Ken about it.

    Unfortunately in regards to Shaggy, I knew he was a JL buster. I just had my peepers on Major Force and lost my brain for a bit.
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  25. The Great No One Force Ghost

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    no, i was just informing him about what happened as a result since he hasn't really poked his nose in much. and really... there haven't been that many trades anyway in drafts since then. i don't know if it's because people are trying to hold onto them for really good deals now or what, but the volume and interest really went down.

    and it wasn't just him, there were some really insane teams that draft, just like there were some really, really insane trades. orryl for myn dojos for instance? the other trades i've mentioned. sure, there were pick swaps, but a 4th round pick for a second is never going to be even, nor is moving up out of the 8th for that pick. you can't make trades like that even really.

    oh, and for the record, that last one i mentioned up there didn't involved ken at all. it was you and shurron, actually. you got wes.

    ah. well, it does happen. but i'm not sure inty really knew much about it to make a judgement call all that effective.
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