The 2006 JEDI DRAFT!!!

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  1. sabarte Jedi Master

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  2. Zonama_Mekot Jedi Master

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    I'm going to take this time to reverse something that has (incorrectly) become a draft standard. The fact that someone screwed over another really does not have that much effect in my view. Just because (example here) Sidious sold out Dooku in the end does not mean that if they had to, Sids and Dooku couldnt work together as a badass team. Granted they may not have happy feelings for each other, but do you really think that if they were teamed up in a life and death battle that they would intentionally sabotage each other?? I think not.

    This has long been a draft standard, that just because people don't like each other means they wouldn't work together. Certainly Sids and Dooku, who have trained together for 10 years would have better cohesion than people who have never met, who happen to have the same beliefs. Even if they may not like each other, they certainly can fight together better than most when their lives are on the line.
  3. sabarte Jedi Master

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    yes, but AFAWK Sids and Dooku were training -against- each other, not -with- each other. Unlike a Jedi pair, where they're learning to cooperate against Random Despot of the Week, there's no motivation for them to learn to fight as a team. There really wasn't any situation that came up that we know of where it was necessary for them to fight together, and they were usually on opposite ends of the galaxy.

    As of right now, I'm judging people as a whole package at (what I consider their) peak, with only the knowledge they had then. Future betrayals aren't important in that.

    though... whoever's running Vader needs to clarify if they consider suitless immature powerhouse Vader or suited but less stupid Vader the peak, because I'm not going to pick and choose the best Vader for each situation.
  4. Shadow_of_Duurron Jedi Knight

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    Eh? Well, it's not really up to me to choose. That's kinda your call. Whatever you consider peak.

    Personally, I think suited Vader is clearly better.
  5. sabarte Jedi Master

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    IMHO, there's some that will beat one and not the other, and vice versa, so just picking one and sticking with it is the fair thing to do. I'll go with suited Vader, then. :)
  6. EMPEROR_WINDU Force Ghost

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    I disagree with the decision, but you did lay out your reasoning quite well. Nice judgement:)


    Suited or unsuited Vader? Pre-suit has more raw power, while suited Vader has the technique of being a Sith Lord down pat. I guess it would depend on what you need him for, a leader in a battle (suited Vader) or the Force user equivalent of a runaway train.


    In a one on one fight, I'd take unsuited Vader anyday. In a team battle though, he makes for a miserable leader in that condition IMO
  7. bburditt Jedi Youngling

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  8. Zonama_Mekot Jedi Master

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  9. Suzuki_Akira Force Ghost

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    That's more like nine, Z_M.
  10. MoronDude Jedi Grand Master

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  12. Suzuki_Akira Force Ghost

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    If I really cared, Burd, I could solve that pyramid with an extremely easy factorial equation.

    Where the hell is whitey?
  13. EMPEROR_WINDU Force Ghost

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    Off trying to solve the pyramid with an extremely difficult factorial equation:p
  14. Talon_Kenobi Force Ghost

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    It's like the Da Vinci Code!!
  15. EMPEROR_WINDU Force Ghost

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  16. JediKnight20043 Force Ghost

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    *Ponders at whether this draft is slower than the videogame one*
  17. Suzuki_Akira Force Ghost

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    Prenn's Silver Wookiees vs Will of the Force
    Yoda, Katarn, Bastila, Tinn, Jaden Korr, Kenth Hamner vs Maul, Ventress, Sing, Fisto, Allie, Yaddle

    Yoda >> Maul
    Katarn = Ventress
    Bastila < Sing
    Tiin = Fisto
    Jaden > Allie
    Hamner > Yaddle

    Neither of these teams have particular team ability, but Yoda v. Maul at one is kind of a blowout.

    Winner: Wookies


    Integration by Darth vs. Purple Posse
    Sids, Dooks, Bane, Bulq, Jerec, Desann vs Mace, Saba, Kyp, Depa, Luminara, Tesar

    Sidious > Mace
    Dooku >> Saba
    Bane < Kyp
    Bulq = Depa
    Jerec = Luminara
    Desann = Tesar

    The reason the backfields are all equals is because I can't really find a significant difference between the backfield characters. The match is won in the depth of the top three, and Sids/Dooks/Bane just kicks the **** out of Mace/Saba/Kyp. Plus sabarte hit on an extremely important intangible point(good job) that Mace isn't real good at protecting his lesser friends, because that's not really the nature of Vaapad. I gotta give this to Integral.

    Winner: Integration by Darth


    Emperor's Pick vs. Boon Dogs
    Kun, Ragnos, Nadd, Lumiya, Hord, Sadow vs Kenobi, Jeth, Vos, Shaak, Totts, and Cay

    Kun > Kenobi
    Ragnos < Jeth
    Nadd < Vos
    Lumiya > Shaak
    Tulak Hord < Tott Donetta
    Sadow < Cay Qel-Droma

    I think the Boon Dogs win this on sheer depth. Besides Kun and a small standout in Lumiya, Emperor's Pick has got no substance to the team. Almost everyone on the Boon Dogs is a decent and battle experienced character, and there are an amazing amount of cohesive connections on the team.

    Winner: Boon Dogs


    Vicious Vets vs. Teh Ub3r Jedis
    Luke, Vodo, Mundi, Ganner, Dark Woman, Hett vs Anakin, Quiggs, Plo Koon, Hoth, Drallig, Rancisis


    Having Plo Koon on your team leads to lack of team depth...
    Lack of team depth leads to ownage...
    Ownage...leads to suffering...

    Winner: Vicious Vets
  18. sabarte Jedi Master

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  19. bburditt Jedi Youngling

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    Worse than Plo? Not possible.
  20. DarthIntegral Force Ghost

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  21. EMPEROR_WINDU Force Ghost

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    Fair enough reasonings. Good match Inty:)
  22. DarthIntegral Force Ghost

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    Back at ya Windu.

    Thanks for the trade that helped form my team, btw.
  23. Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Grand Master

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    Trades are the devil's work. I cast thee out, demon!
  24. EMPEROR_WINDU Force Ghost

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    No problem. I wasn't going to contend with him on my team, so it was time to wheel and deal!!!
  25. JediKnight20043 Force Ghost

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    BUMP



    What the hell is happening here.
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