Senate The 2016 U.S. Presidential Election has begun

You gotta be kidding me.

What's next, "Trump Tower Hunan Delights make the best General Tso's chicken ever! I love the Chinese!" (and General Tso's chicken isn't even authentic Chinese food).

The attack ads are writing themselves...

 

Oh, it gets even better--Trump Tower Grill doesn't even serve taco bowls.

 

Dear Bernie: Don't drop out.

Exactly what I was trying to say. Right now Bernie and Hillary have the unique chance to keep Trump in their crosshairs and take him down. And if both of them are serious about #nevertrump as well, that is what both candidates need to focus on.

 

Similarly: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/sanders-shouldnt-drop-out-for-clintons-sake/

 

And yet more on the subject:

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/why-bernie-sanders-is-staying-in-the-race

And on another note: http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/04/a-conservatives-guide-to-a-trump-nomination/

So, the Right-wingers call Hillary Clinton's policies "cultural Marxism and radical leftism" and yet to Bernie Sanders supporters she's a conservative war-hawk who isn't liberal / progressive at all.

Catch-22.

 

or maybe, ya know, one of those statements is more correct than the other

 

It's not. Thanks for playing.

 

Everyone but Paul Kruger is saying that Sanders should stay in. When's Paul gonna get an aneurysm?

 

Kramer likes the Kung Pao!

 

Well, in a broader foreign policy context among the political spectrum, she is a war hawk. She is a Wilsonian-liberal interventionist.

 

wrong

 

Then Bernie's stances on guns and women make him not progressive either. See how it works?

Realistically, neither of those answers are correct -- they're both extreme. As always, the reality is somewhere in the middle.

Hillary is a left-wing moderate-liberal who is to Bernie Sanders' left on some things, with him on other things, and to Bernie Sanders' right on some things. This doesn't make her a Republican. Not even her hawkish tendencies -- one of the things I'm not thrilled about, but nowhere near as against as some of you are -- make her that way.

 

come on dp. to call her a cultural marxist or radical leftist is clearly absurd. the war-hawk label? not so much.

 

We're all engaging in confirmation bias where our preferred candidates are concerned.

None of us are immune.

 

you actually believe the **** you type, dont you?

 

Well, I don't think she's a neocon, so I object to the term war-hawk -- since I don't think she's going to actively lead us into massive war in the Middle East. But, let's take reality for a second -- many Sanders supporters are simply saying "she's not a Democrat" which is also as clearly absurd as the cultural Marxism label. And she is a radical leftist, so there's a quibble there, I guess.

She wants women to have full control and autonomy. She wants to repeal the Hyde Amendment in Congress. And she's made it a priority in her legislative priorities, unlike other Progressive men. That's radical leftism.

 

oh she's definitely a democrat. bernie is clearly the outlier, no argument here.

 

Rew and he still wants to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it.

 

Yes, but again, if we are comparing Hillary to any democratic presidential candidate or actual president since Carter, and even comparatively to republicans, she is the most hawkish democratic presidential contender in a generation. The only one close would be perhaps the current president or some other guy named Clinton.

 

Donald Trump even builds a wall around his Mexican food.

 

Considering 72% of the US population is Conservative or Moderate -- this isn't surprising?

However, trending in your favor -- so we'll probably see it in our lifetimes. Also, I'm on the left too. Because I'm to your right, doesn't make me not-left.

EDIT: Forgot to source it for you. http://www.gallup.com/poll/180452/liberals-record-trail-conservatives.aspx

Well, less so than Biden (conceptually). So it's not entirely true, considering people wanted to draft Biden to run for some reason...

I mean, I'd bring up Webb but... he's Webb.

 

I'm legit confused here. Didn't Bernie revise his stance on guns in recent years? And how is he even remotely not progressive on women?

 

That his restaurant doesn't even serve.