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Yes, I know what it represents, and I addressed that in my post.

I didn't say it was "OK." I said getting in a huff over it distracts from the much larger, actually damaging issues and that's the way the pro-war state and media would have it.

 

dp4m: Are you watching tonight's speech? Did you see her section on women's rights, and the historicity of her nomination? It was very nice. I have been hoping all week that someone would say something as direct and purposeful on civil rights issues. As of this writing, I'm mostly still waiting.

EDIT: And now we just got a laundry list of equal pay for women, believing in science, protecting our workers from unfair trade deals, and three or four other items. There was still no mention of civil rights issues, which in this speech include a dependent clause about Supreme Court nominees ("expand voting rights) and one other sentence fragment.

 

Yes, because not folding on that one issue would have led to there never being an America. I mean, it's covered in basically every source -- fictionalized and non-fictionalized -- so sure, we can say "Slavery was the worst!" which it was, but if they hadn't caved right at that very month to try and settle the issue down the line there literally wouldn't have been a revolution and Jello would be happier because we'd still be ruled by Queen Elizabeth.

Other people have said it. If you were looking for her, specifically, then okay. But most of yesterday was focused on it, and half of today was focused on it.

 

They should make shirts with the "Trumpbusters" logo, lol.

 

You're wrong about the revolution, by the way. There just would have been two countries.

I have said over and over that I want her or her major surrogates to say it. Because you know what? The media and common people alike tabulate Presidential promises. Not "stuff some guy at the 2:15 PM convention speaking slot said" promises. It's a different level of commitment, and if she finishes this speech without some major section addressing civil rights, it will be a huge retreat from how she campaigned in the primary.

 

There you go H. Get him

 

There you go, Wocky. Systemic racism, disposable lives. Criminal justice reform.

 

It's not what I would have wanted. But we've known all along that she's not the candidate I want, either.

I'll give credit where it's due.

 

She isn't Obama, but that was pretty good.

 

I think that was her second best speech she's ever given, right behind the concession speech to Obama in 2008.

But... did they write this song for her campaign, or is this just something I've never heard?

 

I liked it for sure. Going to be a long campaign, and well over a month longer post-convention than in 2012.

Edit: Also dp4m

I think you can safely jettison your recent attire.

 

Hurrah, I am me again!

 

Balloons. You can't help but love balloons, and there is the proof. If Hillary mailed out 100 million balloons, she would win by a landslide.

Bill was looking a little too eagerly at the VP's daugheter at the end there. But it's Bill, so what the hell!

 

It's only appropriate that the party of the youth should offer techno music alongside its plan to provide tuition-free college. That young lady on stage is certainly enjoying dancing to it. I think she's doing the dubstep!

 

GREAT speech! Many issues touched for sure!

 

Well, the audience reaction was far more enthusiastic in response to Hillary's speech than the one Trump gave.





"When Trump becomes President, I want to be able to tell my children that I did everything to stop him."

 

So, we couldn't tell here at home -- were people trying to yell things against Hillary, and that's why the "Hillary! Hillary!" chants started up at the odd times in the speech?

We definitely heard appropriate "Hillary! Hillary!" chants and "Love trumps hate!" chants... but there were a couple I couldn't make out.

 

I think it was probably what you think it was (protestors being drowned out).

 

they adopted it as a deliberate tactic tonight.

 

Every other article on the internet has to do with the stupid DNC hacking comment. If Trump's goal was to drown out all other news about the DNC, good job.

 

Pretty good speech by Clinton.

Only about 100 more days till the election.