Amph The 2017 Box Office Bloodsplatter

With spin like this the writer should work for Fox News

Somehow TLJ has made $777 million dollars but is still a box offiice disaster.

 

Yeah, I have a lot of friends turning on the movie and quoting that article unironically...

HOWEVER

Wocky... has a point? (And Vivec also does) Typically @Lord Vivec and @Jabba-wocky I also point to sequels like X3: The Last Stand and Spider-Man 3 as absolute highest-grossers in a series, which most people discount the second-films in their series are generally considered to be the best (so naturally would be an uptick in the third film), whereas... those films are terrible.

But also generally point out that CinemaScore is a higher-barometer to look at when talking about high-grossing films and actual response vs. fanboy reaction..

But it sometimes gets... weird. In that Spider-Man 3 and X-Men: The Last Stand also rated highly on CinemaScore (B+ and A- respectively), and there may be some issue either measuring giant franchises or how things were measured back 15 - 20 years ago.

Nothing was ever going to beat The Force Awakens, just as nothing was going to ever beat Star Wars -- you can't capture zeitgeist with sequels, even if they're good, in my opinion -- but I suppose the real benchmark will be if The Last Jedi doesn't surpass Rogue One. If that happens, then yes -- we can start discussing negativity and backlash. Also, bear in mind, Rogue One and The Last Jedi didn't have the same advantage that The Force Awakens did -- namely that Christmas DAY was the Friday of the second weekend, so kids were off literally every day the movie was out vs. Sunday for RO and Monday for TLJ. TLJ's drop is roughly comparable with RO's 2nd weekend drop -- and it's Christmas Day (25th; Monday) was almost identical to RO's 26th (Monday; Christmas observed).

Apparently, and hold on here because this is profound news, Christmas Eve (the 24th) is a terrible day for movie profits because the 3% of Jews who go are still only 3% of the population!

 

TLJ (while eating a bowl of cereal at the kitchen table): Hey dad, I made $151 this weekend.
Dad (reading a newspaper and not looking up): That's nice.

 

$151 is quite low. That's Justice League numbers.

 

I'd argue that B+ isn't actually that good cinemas score wise. You really want to be getting an A- or higher.

 

So you're arguing there's some huge breakpoint where an A- can be dismissed as secretly terrible but an A is also a confirmed masterpiece?

 

@Rylo Ken -- and with the Foreign Estimates coming in for this last week, that would "officially" make me the winner.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=jumanji2016.htm

We'll wait for the final, non-estimate tallies to come in but it's a comfortable margin. I look forward to seeing you, the wife, and the kid this summer! <3

 

Don't worry I won't contest Roy Moore style. I know when I've lost. See you in NY.

 

Bump for emotional closure, for all the consternation and gnashing of teeth (sometimes in this very thread!) about how box office is down, etc. it turns out at 39.9 Billion 2017 was the Highest Grossing Worldwide Movie Year Ever!

http://deadline.com/2017/12/worldwide-box-office-record-2017-39-92-billion-comscore-1202234008/

According to comScore figures this New Year’s Eve, the worldwide box office has hit a record $39.92B. That’s up 3% over 2016 and makes 2017 the highest-grossing year ever in global box office history.

 

While 2017 is the highest grossing year at the box office, it kind of skews the health of movie going industry. Domestic tickets are down for a second straight according to "The Numbers.com" where it lists tickets from 1995-2017, while the average price of a movie ticket has increased $0.25.

2017 1,250,562,084 Tickets sold
2016 1,296,674,369 Tickets sold
2015 1,322,551,950 Tickets sold


Collider.com list the Winners and Losers of 2017 as:

I think Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets is a big loser too considering it grossed $225,874,228 worldwide with a budget of $177 million (does not include cost of promoting and advertising).

 

I am shocked Valerian didn't do well. AMC's "free Valerian branded fidget spinner with movie ticket" promotion didn't do the trick?!

 

Monster Trucks was such a complete flop that no one remembers anything about it. But it had a reported budget of $125 million and made $64 million worldwide.

 

@Rylo Ken -- looks like we were both wrong... Jumanji finished at the top of the BO for this weekend and is now nearly 6x cost worldwide...

 

That's not how the bet worked, unfortunately for me, but a pretty fantastic achievement to go up against Star Wars with a $90 million movie and make what looks like eventually 8x its budget.

 

In an interesting side note, it's one of two films to increase in its second weekend over the holiday period. The Greatest Showman also did it, though at a much lower scale.

 

I wish Coco would hurry up and top $200 million, cus it’s getting closer and closer. It’s currently at $192 million, and it’s increasing so slow in gross that Jumanji managed to pass it. Also over the past few weeks, Coco has started to pace more and more behind Moana; it was pacing about $10 million behind Moana weeks ago, but now it’s probably pacing $30 million behind Moana.

Also, I think Last Jedi could have done better had the audiences not given it worse scores than the critics on rotten tomatoes.

 

Coco is handicapped by that albatross of a short ("short") AND the fact that The Book of Life was just a couple years ago. Comparing it to Moana is guaranteed disappointment.

 

Yah when I saw the 2 hour 10 minute runtime of Coco, I kinda balked, but I was surprised to see the film itself is only 1 hour 40 minutes, it's freakin' Oalf's Frozen Adventure that's adding to the runtime.

 

Hasn't Disney removed Olaf's Frozen Adventure by now, I thought they were going to?

 

yah I think so, I noticed the running time miraculously shrank about 30 minutes or so about 2 weeks ago.

 

I think there are still showings both with and without the short, but I'm not sure the average parent who was put off by it at first is going to know that they've removed it, chase down a showing that doesn't have it, and go anyway. I feel like the damage was done after the first wave of kids and parents had a bad experience.

 

Daring move putting a 30 minute short attached to it.

 

I had to bail on a Coco screening with my parents, nieces and sister due to the running time / what I had to get up to that day on the opening weekend but I just read it was basically almost 40 minutes from the start time before Coco actually began, I probably could have done that. Freakin' snowmen ruin everything!