TV Discussion The Ahsoka Tano Mega Thread Power Hour

Given the sheer number of people managing SW continuity it seems extremely implausible that any official author, anywhere, is getting to make things up. At that level of canon/setting detail, anyway.

 

How many people are managing it?

Because despite the talk of making it all coherent going forward (vs the old EU where writers wrote totally contradictory stuff all the time, and it was kinda hilarious to watch the acrobatics wookieepedia would do to accomodate all of it) while the best of intentions might be there, if they have enough people involved in the supervisory process, past a certain point they're likely to run into right-hand-not-knowing-what-left-hand-is-doing situations simply because of the size and unwieldiness of said body of people. And so inconsistencies would creep back in. Welcome to the New EU, same as the Old EU.

 

I wholeheartedly agree with you. I can't pinpoint when exactly they started to make lightsabers all mysterious and magical. I remember a time when crafting a lightsaber was exactly that : crafting with tools and steady hands. Like Luke in SotE, like Revan and the Exile in KotOR 1 and 2, like anyone playing Jedi in SWG. A skilled Jedi could craft a lightsaber from spare parts and electronics (Corran Horn made on from speeder parts in whatever novel), down to making a synthetic crystal. Lightsabers were important and unique to a Jedi, but they were technological devices, nothing more. Crystal were attuned to the Force, and in some sources to each user but they had no will of their own.

Then there was Bariss Offee assembling her lightsaber with the Force in the caves on Illum in the cartoon series, which was still alright I think.. And then... We got the younglings from the CW who were merely given all the parts they could need and given lessons from a droid... Is it just me, or is the idea of something deaf to the Force teaching children about the Force a big contradiction? I always found that very silly.

And finally the latest offense : the bleeding crystals. So how do they explain Windu's purple blade? Did the crystal partially bled because he doesn't like Windu? Or maybe it's just blushing because its shy? And why did Anakin's blade remain blue even as he massacred everyone in the Temple? Please Pablo help us here...

 

New canon saber making is better, it feels like SW. And it wasn't Disney, that was introduced in TCW season 5.

 

Oh, you mean "bleeding of the crystal" part. Yeah, that was in Ahsoka book.

 

I am still not a fan of that scene, and not a fan of current lightsaber making. I was under the impression that constructing your own lightsaber was an advanced skill that marked the trait of a Jedi Knight, ever since Vader said “I see you have constructed a new lightsaber. Your skills are complete.”

And that's what made lightsabers cool. There were like the Star Wars version of the samurai sword.

But that younglings episode in TCW made lightsabers look like something any youngling could make with some concentration, by just picking and assembling mass-manufactured parts like in a LEGO shop. Then the Ahsoka book with the "singing crystals for their destined owner"... In an attempt to make them “mystical”, they ended up making lightsaber construction redundant and some ‘pre-destined’ Harry Potter Western fantasy crap.

 

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Yup. It's why in regards to certain things I don't give a hoot what the new, post Disney writ says. I'll stick with the original EU explanation thank you very much. I will not "unlearn what I have learned".

 

Actually, going back to the sequence in the cartoon Clone Wars on Illum, Luminara also says as Bariss finishes her lightsaber "Your training is complete". It clearly showed making your lightsaber was part of a knight's trial, or at least only a season padawan could do.

Exactly. Next thing you know there's a holonet shop when you can just order the parts online, pick your favourite material and colour and even have a customized engraving.

That was also implied in TFA with Anakin's lightsaber "calling" to Ray.

Likewise. As far as I'm concerned "Legends" is still a valid EU, crystals don't sing nor bleed, and TFA is an expensive fan-film.

 

I know it's a pipe dream, but I had a thought today that if there was ever a chance that Ahsoka could get the live action treatment for the Han Solo movie coming out next year. If you think about it, it takes place about a decade before ANH, so there wouldn't be any continuity issue. I wouldn't mind if she was used as a prop just like Saw was in RO; at the very least she could recognize the Wookie that the young smuggler is hanging out with.

 

Well from what I've heard of the Ahsoka novel (I haven't read it yet) I think she lived inconspicuously and incognito as a mechanic for a while. She also moved from place to place for a while, always paranoid of being made by the Empire or one of their agents. Totally the kind of environment where she could run into Han.

On the other hand... with a big grand-design spiral like the GFFA averaging about five hundred thousand million stars, there's plenty of room for her to absolutely, totally not ever be anywhere near him.

It depends on whether they think it would make for a good story I guess.

 

Well I certainly don't see how her appearance would be a huge issue; even if she was playing the part of mechanic on some distant Outer Rim planet with her lightsabers nowhere to be found.

 

Spoiler

At the beginning of the book she's been living in the same place for roughly a year since Order 66. She then moves to Raada and lives there for some weeks while the evens of the book unfold. At the end of the book she commits to the Rebellion as head of Intelligence so... She's gonna have her hands pretty full building a network and then running it. We also don't know whether Han's backstory is gonna remain what it was in Legends : an Imperial pilot. If it is, then I think it's gonna be complicated to get the head or Rebel Intelligence and an Imperial pilot in the same room.

 

I’ve been thinking about future standalone films for SW, and I think an anthology film that had Anakin, Ahsoka, and Rex as the main characters would be interesting.

 

It would nescesarily be set during the Clone War era though. I wonder how much ground there is left to cover in that era, pertaining to Anakin, Ahsoka and Rex, that hasn't already been done in TCW.

Maybe they could set one of the spinoffs just prior to Revenge of the Sith. Much as Rogue One was just prior to A New Hope. Such a movie would then feature the Siege of Mandalore and finish up right where RoTS started, with Grievous' raid on Coruscant and capture of Palps, and Anakin and Obi-Wan launching a desperate mission to get him back before the Invisible Hand jumps away.

In addition to whatever merits it might have on its own, it could also serve as a powerful magnet to draw people who had never considered watching TCW, or who in some cases might not even be aware that the series existed, into watching it. I mean people who don't know anything about that, after watching that movie would be like "Who's this Ahsoka and why is she a big deal to Anakan? What do you mean she was his Padawan, what padawan, when? And why the frakk is Darth Maul still alive???" As far as they knew, Anakin never had a padawan, and Darth Maul died on Naboo when Obi-Wan chopped him in half. This then would incentivize them to dig deeper to find out the backstory on how these things could be. Leading them to discover The Clone Wars.

 

I think Anakin had enough live action films through the PT movies. But I'd certainly be game for some adventures between Ahsoka and Rex.

 

Disagree, one of the key components is the Anakin/Ahsoka relationship, it would be tragic if they didn't have that

 

I would say, depending on the timeframe we're talking about, the ship had already sailed as far as the Ahsoka/Anakin relationship. There would really be nothing more to build upon; especially after she walks out on the Jedi and he's got a new "friend".

 

Agreed. And Anakin/Rex was a great pair, it would be awesome to see that in live action. There was humor in that relationship. “A lot of the General's plans involve falling.”

To me, the ideal TCW-era movie would have Anakin, Obi-Wan, Rex, Fives and co., Ahsoka and Mace Windu.

 

Well they could do a movie of the final arc of TCW and so use the Voice Actors. That would be a good ending.

If they wanted they could have Ahsoka as Vaders Jesse during the Dark Times (contradictory with Rebels I know but if they don't care about continuity why should we) would be both interesting and tragic

 

Uh that's too farfetched and wrong. And a retelling of the final arc of TCW would just be redundant.

 

I was thinking of the final TCW arc that leads into RotS

 

You mean the one that wasn't released featuring Mandalore?

 

Yep

 

Well now would've been as good a time as any to release such a movie; considering where has been going with it's spunky little vandal with a jetpack.