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Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by LottDodd, Sep 12, 2014.

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  1. LottDodd

    LottDodd Jedi Master star 4

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    Forgive me if there is already a thread dedicated to this.

    We have had much speculation in these forums about the state of The Empire post RotJ, but what about The Rebel Alliance?

    Apparently The Empire didn't just fade away after the Emperor's demise... Did the Rebels ever get the upper hand in the galaxy, or are they still scrappy underdogs? Some of the X-wings we've seen look pretty beat up...and the spy footage from England definitely had pilots in Rebel uniforms rushing to them...

    Still, Solo is rumored to be flying a (Super?) Star Destroyer, (used or not, that's still a mighty big statement of power.) So they may have more resources or territory than they once had.

    Anyway, Imperial technology seems to have advanced, while Rebel tech is still used castoffs.
     
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  2. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    I think by the ST, the Rebel Alliance is more or less a revolutionary government; it might even refer to itself as the Galactic Republic.
     
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  3. TelemachosJr

    TelemachosJr Jedi Youngling star 1

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    With the empire gone surly the alliance has become the new republic
     
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  4. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    I don't reckon they'll add "new". Sounds really corny.
     
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  5. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I wonder if the Alliance stayed together or split into multiple factions. Many rebel groups split after overthrowing the reigning regime.
     
  6. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    That's a good point. We already know the Lotahl rebels from Rebels were completely independent of the Rebel Alliance.
     
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  7. Import_Jedi

    Import_Jedi Force Ghost star 6

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    "One Republic" would sound like a lame pop rock band. Oh wait
     
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  8. Darth Eddie

    Darth Eddie Jedi Master star 4

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    The way that I see it, I think the Empire will be in a state of decline against a more powerful Rebel Alliance, who themselves have probably reclaimed enough space from the Empire that nobody's really calling them "Rebels" anymore. I suspect the word "Alliance" will be more frequently used to refer to our good guys this time around. If the galaxy is more or less split 50/50 between Alliance and Imperial worlds, notwithstanding Hutt Space, Wild Space or what have you. Nevertheless I doubt either party will have any legitimate claim to the"Galactic" status that the Republic or Empire previously held.
     
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  9. Among the Clouds

    Among the Clouds Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    If the Empire lives on, I'd prefer they did it in a way that indicates the roles have been switched. So the Rebels are now the Republic, and what's left of the Empire are now essentially the Rebels trying to overthrow the Republic and regain power.
     
  10. SgtTimBob

    SgtTimBob Manager Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If the Alliance was to call itself anything to do with the Republic, surely it would just use Galactic Republic, as before. The issue is that the Empire is the Republic, in the sense that it transitioned from one to the other. To really defeat it, you have to do it from inside, in the same sense that Palpatine defeated the Republic by working from within. Perhaps this is Leia's path in the new films? Undoing the corruption that Palpy sowed throughout the senate and the government. Hopefully without nearly as many expository politcal scenes (because those were boring and have no place in an adventure serial).

    All signs at this point do seem to indicate that there's still an Empire, there are still Rebels, and that they still do battle. The film makers probably want to avoid any overly complex politics that explain this, so the reason why this is the situation will probably be fairly simple, and explained in the opening crawl, I suspect.
     
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  11. ifleninwasawizard

    ifleninwasawizard Jedi Master star 4

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    As the Empire weakens, Alliance in-fighting should probably increase.

    I think there should be a natural conflict between rebels who believe republic corruption was mainly the result of Palpatine, and those who remember the long history of corruption in the republic. The result is multiple splits between rebels who believe in strong, weak, or non-existent forms of centralized galactic governance.
     
  12. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Any infighting, domestic politics will probably be left to the novels.
     
  13. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    The absence of a galactic government would help avoid boring politics.
     
  14. sluggo1313.

    sluggo1313. Jedi Knight star 4

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    Who says the Rebels want to re-instate the Republic?

    Its not the Republic was an amazing government free from corruption, which always did what was best for people/planets/systems etc... It had plenty of issues too.

    Maybe we won't see 1 centerialize galaxy wide government in the ST.
     
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  15. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Restoration of the Galactic Republic was something Lucas envisaged towards the end of the ST
     
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  16. ifleninwasawizard

    ifleninwasawizard Jedi Master star 4

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    The origins of the infighting may be left to the novels, but the actual combat between those groups may be in the movies. If done right, only a little exposition is needed to explain the differences between the groups.
     
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  17. Kablob

    Kablob Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It's called the Alliance to Restore the Republic.
     
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  18. Baron_Papanerd

    Baron_Papanerd Jedi Master star 4

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    Exactly this.

    They should be faithful to ROTJ. The rebels won; a new Republic should have been created. Fragments of the former Empire then plot in secret, to gain back power, and bring back Tyranny to the Galaxy. 32 years later, we see that this Emperial Fragment have been openly taking on the New Republic, and have become a real threat.
     
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  19. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    in the EU
     
  20. sluggo1313.

    sluggo1313. Jedi Knight star 4

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    Says who? Besides, you know Lucas didn't write the ST.

    Not in an canon source I'm aware of.
     
  21. Kablob

    Kablob Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The Canon Wookieepedia page still calls it that, and normally they're pretty stringent about that sort of thing.
     
  22. TheBBP

    TheBBP Force Ghost star 6

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    Yeah, but what is their source?
     
  23. ifleninwasawizard

    ifleninwasawizard Jedi Master star 4

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    Yet the databank still only refers to it as the Rebel Alliance. The only political motivation attributed to the rebellion is the restoration of democracy.

    Though, to be fair, the description also says "the Rebel Alliance triumphed over the Empire at the Battle of Endor." While this is vague, it still sort of contradicts all the rumors we have been hearing. My feeling is both the people at the official site and the people at Wookieepedia probably know very little about how the rebellion is going to be further characterized.
     
  24. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    It could be one of those short stories like Blade Squadron that uses the full name.
     
  25. Rabs

    Rabs Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It'll most likely just be called the Alliance or the Alliance of Free Planets or something along those lines. I don't expect to here the words Galactic Republic until the end of the ST.
     
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