Arena "The Beautiful Game" - The Official JCC Football (Soccer) Thread.

It's pretty revolutionary from RonKo. He may be ahead of his time, though.

 

FIFA to use FIFA rankings and seed all teams for the 2018 World Cup Draw, restricting that outside of Two UEFA teams, no group can contain more than one team from a Confederation.

Leaving us to hope for a Group of Death such as Brazil, Spain, Italy, Cote d'Ivoire

 

epic you should go to the theatre of screams this weekend. It's about as sure a thing as you can get that you'll not see Manchester Untied for once.

 

lol Everton

 

missed the game, but by the sounds of it it was a very lucky 4-0. take that over the dodgy 0-0s last year though.

Martial has got to start over Rashford for me, too. he's just the better player, simple.

 

server is ****

 

Nice bounce back for Dortmund today. Still odd to see VAR in action. In MLS, it feels like an "oh, you Americans" type thing and kinda fits. Seems odd in Bundesliga. I'm sure I'll get used to it.

 

That particular use of replay is rather controversial. Ref had disallowed a Dortmund goal die an alleged foul. Replay showed no foul, so the goal was given. The problem is, the ref had blown the whistle before the ball crossed the line, so the goal shouldn't have been allowed. Köln have entered a protest and want the match replayed, which seems a bit silly given the final score of 5-0.

 

That particular use of replay is rather controversial. Ref had disallowed a Dortmund goal die an alleged foul. Replay showed no foul, so the goal was given. The problem is, the ref had blown the whistle before the ball crossed the line, so the goal shouldn't have been allowed. Köln have entered a protest and want the match replayed, which seems a bit silly given the final score of 5-0.

 

I can see why. At 5-0, they really have nothing to lose with a replay as the chances are it won't be 5-0 or worse. Chances are it will at least help their goal difference.

 

The controversial goal made it 2-0 just before half, Köln are arguing it changed the match dramatically.

 

A nice way to take the focus off the score, though.

 

Yeah. I didn't like that particular use of VAR. There was a second incident in the 2nd half where VAR awarded a penalty to Dortmund. That one I'm fine with. But if the play is blown dead, a goal scored after it was blown dead? I'm not okay with that. Look at Red Cards, look at penalties, look at if a goal that was allowed should be disallowed.

I can't say I agree that it changed the match dramatically. Dortmund were the clear aggressor and rewarded for it, and Köln barely showed any desire to attack or even posses.

 

Was the keepers actions affected by the whistle? Or did he still attempt to stop it anyway?

 

I don't think the Keeper could have made a play on it, whistle or no. The keeper was bumped by his own man, and lost the ball. This was originally adjudged a foul by a Dortmund player. The ball dropped to a Dortmund player who was clear on goal, who tapped it in after the whistle. They went to VAR, saw that the contact did not involve Dortmund in any way, and cleared the foul, and allowed the goal.

I think had it been called the other way - not a foul, goal scored, and then looked at via VAR and adjudged to have been a foul and disallowed, that would be fine. I just don't like it in the other direction.

I'm a fan of VAR, but I want it incredibly limited. This seems too expansive for my tastes.

 

That does open a can of worms. How many times do you see the ref blow the whistle, the defending team stop immediately while the attacking team carries on for a few seconds.

If the VAR is going to be used in those circumstances, take the whistle away from the ref.

 

for me, it's all about the correct decision being made. seems like in this case, ignoring the referee's whistle, a goal was scored legally in the actual process of play. if that's what the end result was as a result of VAR, then all good.

edit: re Diggy's point, that's why I asked whether the keeper was affected by the whistle. if not, then fine, but if he was, or defenders stopped etc, then i agree you can't let that kind of goal stand. it does make it very subjective though.

 

The rulebook is quite clear on the point, if the whistle blows, play is dead and the goal shouldn't count. The officials clearly blew the call. The question is what the remedy should be.

 

Ffs, I hate Tapatalk.

 

Rooney sentenced to 100 hours of supporting Everton


WAYNE Rooney has been sentenced to 100 gruelling hours of supporting Everton.
After he was found guilty of drink driving, Judge Mary Fisher said that she felt it was in the public interest for her to impose the strongest possible sentence on the former England striker.
Judge Fisher said: “If I didn’t want to make an example, I might have just sentenced you to support Stoke City for a match or maybe Fulham for an away game in the North.
“But as it is, you will have to spend the next 100 hours watching Everton struggle in the Europa League whilst screaming at the TV screen, ‘Why the **** didn’t we buy a new striker?’
“I think it is fair to say that supporting Everton is the grimmest and most fruitless task known to man.”
Representing Rooney, Martin Bishop QC added: “It’s a good thing he didn’t crash the car. Then he might have been sentenced to supporting West Ham, which should really come under the bracket of ‘cruel and unusual punishment.’”

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport...00-hours-of-supporting-everton-20170919136040

 

Köln decided not to file the protest after all.

 

Köln decided not to file the protest after all.

 

Ive never seen a wronger post, and Ive read all of Richies.

It wasnt legal. It wasnt an actual process of play. Whistle blown = end of play. No exceptions.

 

Ive never seen a wronger post, and Ive read all of Richies.

It wasnt legal. It wasnt an actual process of play. Whistle blown = end of play. No exceptions.

 

For once I'm glad of a double post, so I could like it twice, which the first line warrants.

 

I get what the rules are, and I'm more just playing devils advocate here, but if the whole point of VAR is to correct bad decisions by referees, and the blowing of the whistle is itself a bad decision after review, and the goal would have stood without the whistle (and no defenders or keepers stopped play, therefore allowing the goal), then it strikes me that VAR could override the whistle.

Judging whether players were suitably put off by the whistle or not is admittedly an issue with this.

 

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Hi Ste. The devil has asked that you stop advocating for him.

 

fine, I'm now advocating for the three eyed raven instead. such a talented actor cut down in its prime

 

At this point I can no longer tell if you guys are double posting by mistake or doing it on purpose.