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Discussion in 'EU Community' started by Evil Incarnate, Apr 21, 2013.

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  1. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Force Ghost star 10

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    Wow. I should update more often. I didn't realise it's been a year. My performance scores went up to nearly perfect :eek:
     
  2. Jedi Master Kenobiwan

    Jedi Master Kenobiwan Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    64-bits or 32-bits?

    Got to hurry up, AV. The train doesn't wait forever. ;)
     
  3. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Force Ghost star 10

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    64 bit! :)

    Yeah, my graphics had 3 updates from 2011-2013 :p
     
  4. Joe

    Joe Jedi Master star 6

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    Apparently, I'm the only one on 8.
     
  5. Rebecca_Daniels

    Rebecca_Daniels Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yeah, and my dad is the sort of person who gets stuck in his ways. Keeps cursing at the computer as if what's happening is its fault (it's usually not) :p
     
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  6. Jedi Master Kenobiwan

    Jedi Master Kenobiwan Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    *Shakes her head in despair.* Typical you. :p
     
  7. Joe

    Joe Jedi Master star 6

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    No, they didn't. It hasn't caught on well, but it is by no standards a failure. They have said nothing of the sort. Windows 8 is a fine operating system, hampered by the dumb idea of making the Metro UI the default UI. If Metro was switchable on/off, it'd be praised as better than 7.

    Windows Blue is rumored to enable the start menu again. Once that hits, 99% of the complaints about 8 will be gone.
     
  8. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Force Ghost star 10

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    They did. We studied Windows in Economics. It has underperformed as a business venture.

    It may work well, but if they're not selling then it's a failure.



    How is that typical me, Ken? :eek:
     
  9. Joe

    Joe Jedi Master star 6

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    http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/201...-selling-at-the-same-rate-that-windows-7-did/
    http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/201...windows-8-appears-to-be-outselling-windows-7/
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/2036367/windows-8-tablet-sales-not-terrible-so-far.html

    Windows 8 sales have been fine. Lackluster? Maybe. Bad? No.
     
  10. Jedi Master Kenobiwan

    Jedi Master Kenobiwan Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Well.....as long as I have known you, you have almost, just almost, everytime late for the tea. :p
     
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  11. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Force Ghost star 10

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    Eh, my teacher said it was bad for them. Tablets helped, but weren't enough to meet their goals.
    He's worked as a head financial advisor at TD, I'm inclined to believe him.

    --

    I'm never late for tea. I love my tea time.
    I honestly don't remember being late for much here. :p
     
  12. Joe

    Joe Jedi Master star 6

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    Unless your teacher also wants to argue that 7 was a failure, he's wrong. He may be a teacher and have experience, but the numbers don't support what he's saying. Numbers don't lie.
     
  13. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Force Ghost star 10

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    I think we're on two separate ideas here.
    I'm not comparing to 7, I'm comparing to the overall goals for 8 that were set. Growth, sales, profit.
     
  14. Jedi Master Kenobiwan

    Jedi Master Kenobiwan Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    That's your way of seeing thing, my way is different. :p
     
  15. Joe

    Joe Jedi Master star 6

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    I'm saying that Windows 8 has been selling at a rate which is at least on par with 7. If we can all agree that 7 was a financial success, than it stands to reason that 8 was one, also.

    As for goals set, there is no way to tell what the goals were. Most of that would be internal, not external, and as such can't be proven. What can be proven is that the actual sales figures have been good. The Windows division of Microsoft has a 60% profit margin - that's pretty damn good.
     
  16. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Force Ghost star 10

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    Which is why press releases have been released saying that the sales were subpar.
    The business model is evidently different from 7, otherwise there would be no argument here. But as you said, majority of this is internal. We have no way of knowing if they were allotting more money for production or R&D.

    Is the margin all Windows products?
     
  17. Jedi Master Kenobiwan

    Jedi Master Kenobiwan Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Off for the rest of the day, bye!
     
  18. Joe

    Joe Jedi Master star 6

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    Can you link me to the press release where they said it was a failure?

    It's the Windows division. That includes Windows, Windows Phone, Surface and maybe Office (although I believe that's a separate division).
     
  19. Jedi Gunny

    Jedi Gunny Yahtzee Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    Bye Ken.

    *Goes back to researching*
     
  20. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Force Ghost star 10

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  21. Joe

    Joe Jedi Master star 6

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    I'm sorry, but that article just says that Microsoft will change parts of Windows 8 itself. It makes no reference to Microsoft admitting sales were below par. That's like saying Apple sees the iPhone as a failure because it launched a software update.
     
  22. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Force Ghost star 10

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    There's a link in there. I can't find the exact article on my phone.

    All I know is they need to update the software in order to improve sales. Otherwise they wouldn't bother changing as much as they're changing it. Sales were ok, but subpar.

    Consumer satisfaction was lower than they wanted too.
     
  23. Joe

    Joe Jedi Master star 6

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    Nope. No link that I can see, and I tried every link in the article.

    Windows 8.1 will increase sales, but that doesn't mean sales were subpar. It just means they want to reach new markets, such as the 8-inch tablet market (which will see Windows tablets for the first time thanks to 8.1).
     
  24. Admiral Volshe

    Admiral Volshe Force Ghost star 10

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    I know what I know...

    And on another note, I just realised why the Sith are so dang rude in TOR. Reverse psychology. :p
     
  25. Joe

    Joe Jedi Master star 6

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    I thought it was just because they're evil.
     
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