Before The Blue Side of the Force: Book I- Complements (9/28 - to find a mysterious planet)

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  1. obi_webb Force Ghost

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    FINALLY!!=D= something new for me to read!
    the more i read the more i enjoy Leiraya! i've never heard of a pacifist correlian jedi padawan before! she makes for some very interesting reading.
    at first i was a little dissapointed that we didn't see much of Aiden, but now i don't mind at all. heck, i think i'm just as or more curious to read more Leiraya!
    her and carth will be fun pair to watch!
    oh, and i love the way you wrote vrook and vandar!(the underwater basket weaving line was priceless!) that was the first vandar i read that didn't sound like a YODA clone.
    so as usual, great job and i look forward to more!
  2. RK_Striker_JK_5 Force Ghost

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    Man, Carth and Leiraya were so cute there!

    I didn't like the grilling that Master gave her. Arrogant fool. I hope he gets either gutted or electrocuted...
  3. Commander-DWH Shiny Costuming & Props Manager

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    JadeSolo: The ring, actually, can probably be gotten somewhere. I picked it up at a local art fair. Initially, I got it because the mobius is such a nifty figure, and I'm a math nerd. And then it inspired me. :D

    padawanlissa: Thank you, and I'm happy to oblige. :)

    obi_webb: Don't worry, there will be more Aiden in the next chapter. And more Leiraya. Heck, there'll even be some Bastila. ;) See what you have to look forward to?

    Striker: Yeah, Carth can be cute when he wants to be. [face_mischief] And Vrook? Don't even get me started on Vrook. He's a character, all right. :rolleyes:

    As always, I appreciate the feedback, and I hope to have a new post for you before too terribly long. :D
  4. kotorchick Force Ghost

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    I read Mobius a few weeks ago, and now it makes a lot more sense. I've got a hint to what happened to Kylan, but I'm not saying anything... besides, they would have have to been trained together if he's who I'm thinking he is. Actually, when was Leiraya trained? As a child, or will we find out later? Just being my curious self. I loved Carth and Leiraya together again, and I felt so sorry for her when she was having to deal with those stupid jedi masters acting liked she was an idiot... But i alwasy did like Vandar's veiws on things, and ht's wise to have Aiden learn from everyone on their trip.

    P.S.- Can i be on the PM list too? I read your stuff obsessivly.
  5. Darth_Scroobius Jedi Master

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    ?They?re also historically known for somewhat less savory activities, but I hardly think we need to bring that up.?

    Indeed they are, which is why I find it so surprising for their corner of the Jedi Order to be pacifistic. I would have thought the reverse might be true, but I suppose they are intentionally contrasting themselves with their surroundings.

    Master Vrook scowled after the padding of her bare feet against the stone floor was no longer audible. ?I don?t like the idea of letting her influence him. She doesn?t know who or what she?s dealing with.?

    I won't say any spoilers for non-KOTOR people, but this struck me as a very shrewd move on the part of the Council. They surround their unusual student with a moderating influence. I like that there is an intelligent justification for having your OC continue with the gang on their journy.

    ?Well, he and I worked together, Corellian Waterfront Safety Patrol. I always liked working with him, even though he constantly poked fun at my lack of correct usage of hand signals.

    What is it with you and water safety? I mean, at this rate I would be unsurprised if they run into a water safety person on Tatooine.

    ?You mean he just up and left? Some friend.? Carth was unable to keep the contempt from his voice. If there was one thing he had no respect for, it was those who abandoned their friends.

    Ah, but who abandoned whom? It's not as one-sided as Carth is imagining; it's not like he left when she was near death or something.

    A most excellent update.
  6. Crazydan Jedi Knight

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    Good to see that Carth and Leiyrana had recounciled with each other.

    Ah, I understand. No problems with that. I already show my paper to friends from my dorm floor and they all thought it was good. And the due date was last Friday.

    Good luck with all these problems at university.
  7. Commander-DWH Shiny Costuming & Props Manager

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    kotorchick: consider yourself added. ;) And I know precisely what happened to Kylan, though I'm not saying. You're welcome to guess, though, even though I'm not going to confirm or deny anything. All shall be revealed in time.

    Scroobius:
    Well, the simple answer to "why all the water safety people" is that I was working full-time as a lifeguard when I started this fic. :p But I promise she's the last. I actually do have my own evil plot reasons for it, which will eventually become apparent. If you're too impatient to wait for a month or two (or three...), then I'd be happy to give you the gist of what's going on in PM form. Since, you know... I can't really spoil the story for you.

    Indeed they are, which is why I find it so surprising for their corner of the Jedi Order to be pacifistic. I would have thought the reverse might be true, but I suppose they are intentionally contrasting themselves with their surroundings.

    I'm kind of going with the idea that they're individualistic and free-thinking enough to allow for such a faction to pop up. It also has to do with intra-system politics, wars being started for ridiculously stupid reasons that could've been prevented through simple negotiations, and other such things that make the anti-war faction rather large and vocal. But I'll get more into that later in the fic. :)

    Crazydan: Yeah, they're on speaking terms... for the time being.[face_whistling]

    What can I say? Carth will be Carth. :D
  8. Crazydan Jedi Knight

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    Talking about universities, here's one funny thing:

    The name of my Film Studies course's professor is Dr. Malek.

    No, he don't have a lightsaber ;).
  9. Commander-DWH Shiny Costuming & Props Manager

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    All right, school has been crazy for both myself and my beta. I'm making an executive decision and going ahead and posting this- I've gone through and done some revising, and given that it's had a month to cool off, I'm feeling pretty good about it. If I need to, I'll edit in minor changes later, but this is a cool chapter and I like it a lot. So sit back, relax, and enjoy the story. :D

    Chapter Seven

    ?Aiden, you?re missing the point of this exercise entirely.?

    ?You?re just sore because you?re losing.?

    ?That is entirely not true.? Bastila tossed her head and smirked, the hum of her lightsaber underscoring her words. ?On the contrary, I believe I have you cornered.?

    ?You wha- ooof!? Aiden sucked in air as he stumbled backwards and hit the ground. Bastila had planted a solid kick to his stomach, and thumbed off her saber with a grin.

    ?The point, Aiden, is to realize what your opponent is going to do before she actually does it. Listen closely to the Force, and hear its whispers.? She extended her hand. ?That way, you won?t find yourself flat on your posterior regions every time you fight.?

    Accepting her hand, he got up off the floor. ?So the Force comes with an interactive combat help guide, huh??

    ?I wouldn?t put it quite like that? but yes, in a sense.? She clipped her saber to her belt. ?That?s enough for today, though. You did well.?

    ?Thanks.? Aiden brushed the dust off his pants and put the training saber back in the cabinet he had retrieved it from. He really rather hoped to be building his own soon, as the balance in the training sabers never felt quite right. He couldn?t explain exactly why, but his hands seemed to know precisely what they wanted. Could just be something to do with the Force? he?d heard of the bond between a Jedi and his lightsaber. Something unquantifiable that made it operate like the extension of one?s own hand.

    Speaking of bonds? ?So, Bastila. The Council said something about that bond of ours, but I don?t quite understand it. Care to enlighten me??

    She seemed to grow somewhat uncomfortable at the mention of the bond, but she threw a small smile on her face. ?It is unusual, to be sure. I do not quite understand its nature, myself. But somehow, for whatever reason, a bond has been forged between us. I can only believe it is the will of the Force. Beyond that, I cannot say.?

    Aiden considered this for a moment. It wasn?t much more than she?d said back on Taris, so he decided to probe a bit further. ?So? does this just mean we have a few shared visions, or is there more going on that I just can?t sense because I?m new at this??

    ?Well,? she paused, as though trying to pull the answer out of the air. ?The visions are a central part of it, yes. It will probably also result in each of us being able to sense the feelings of the other quite strongly.?

    ?Feelings, eh?? A wry grin tugged at the corners of his mouth. ?I thought you Jedi didn?t have feelings.?

    ?First of all, you?re a Jedi now, too, so none of that ?you Jedi? business. Second of all, of course we have feelings. We just don?t let them control us.?

    ?Ah.? He nodded sagely. ?So mostly we?ll just be stuck having each other in our visions.?

    Bastila shrugged. ?As far as I can tell, though I confess that doesn?t mean anything at this stage.?

    ?I don?t know how I feel about that.? Aiden crossed his arms and grinned easily. ?I mean, you keep showing up in my dreams, and maybe I?d rather be dreaming about someone else.?

    ?Me in your dreams? How do you know it?s not you in mine?? She crossed her arms and smirked.

    ?I?? he paused. Actually, he couldn?t prove it to the contrary. Not yet. ?I?m smart like that??

    ?Nice try, but you?d best try your ?smartness? in other areas.?

    Aiden looked at his chrono, suddenly reminded that he did, in fact, have other areas to be in. ?Speaking of smartness, I?ve gotta run. I?m supposed to study some philosophy with Leiraya before lunch.?

    ?Oh, well have fun with that.?

    Ignoring the obvious sarc
  10. padawanlissa Jedi Master

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  11. RK_Striker_JK_5 Force Ghost

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    Nice update, DWH. That color thing is... odd, and completely contradictory to my view of the Force, to be honest. Still, neat explanation. Loved the banter, too.
  12. obi_webb Force Ghost

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    good job with the executive descion to post this without the beta done! i was anxious to read the next part!
    i FINALLY get what the title of your story means! HORRAY!=D= very clever, i like it! the color theory is pretty similar to a theory i a have about the sides of the Force
    a great update as usual! i got to see more Aiden! i like his line about the council would probably like to stamp lightside good, darkside bad, on his head! [face_laugh]
    if you would, add me to the list of people you pm when you update again! it would be appreciated!
  13. Crazydan Jedi Knight

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    Nice update. Can I ask you something about this color theory? Is that a real philosophy you learned in a philosophy class or just made up?

    Just wondering because my Problems of Philosophy finished the studies of Ethnics (we looked at Plato, Kant, Mill, Nizetche, etc) and Political Science) and now we're starting the topic of God in Problems of Philosophy. Should be interesting.
  14. kotorchick Force Ghost

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    Wow. I really liked the color thing, and the title makes a lot of sense now. So happy you updated. I follow your fics consistantly, and it's hard to wait for good KOTOR fiction (or any KOTOR fiction). Though I'm not sure I totally understand the principle, it makes sense in some form in a back water place in my mind.
  15. Inara Force Ghost

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    I [face_love] good KOTOR fics.

    I've only just started reading this, but I'm liking it very much!
  16. JadeSolo Manager Emeritus

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    Nifftacular post! Finding out the meaning of the story's title. :D

    Bastila came off in previous posts like this really nasty, frigid wench. But I guess that's because I was seeing her more from Leiraya's point of view. :p Now she seems to have a softer side, especially when it comes to training others. She's no scary drill sergeant.

    And I like the color theory. [face_love] Makes Force philosophy so much...prettier. [face_laugh]
  17. Commander-DWH Shiny Costuming & Props Manager

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    Wow, lots of readers! [face_dancing]

    padawanlissa: thanks, padawan mine. :D

    Striker: To be honest, I don't expect it to be a popular or widely accepted theory. After all, my OC is among the weirdos of the Jedi Order, so the probability of this becoming a commonplace view is... well, pretty low. :p Glad you enjoyed anyway.

    obi_webb: consider yourself added. :) And yeah, I knew I'd have to explain the title eventually, so fwah! There it is.

    Crazydan: Believe it or not, my philosophy of colours is more a product of art history classes than of philosophy classes. I made it up myself as far as the Force is concerned, but colour meaning is a commonly discussed topic in certain circles. In fact, when I wrote my Visitor's Guide for the Allen Memorial Art Museum, I did it based on the usage of colours throughout the different periods of art, and how different artists use it to denote different things. For instance, ultramarine blue was made from a really expensive stone, lapis lazuli, so any person painted with ultramarine blue clothing was automatically assumed to be of great importance. This, of course, changed as materials changed, but yeah. Fascinating stuff, that.

    kotorchick: This all makes a lot more sense if you've taken a lot of art classes. :p I'll do my best to make it clear for those who haven't. Good thing I have non artsy people trying to learn this stuff...

    Inara: Thanks! And I like your username, as Firefly is a supremely awesome show and Inara is cool. :D

    JadeSolo: Yeah, Bastila's not as mean as I sometimes make her out to be. :p And I agree, the Force is so much prettier in technicolour.
  18. Crazydan Jedi Knight

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    Ultramarine blue? Sounds interesting... Why does that remind me of Warhammer 40K?

    Anyway, thanks for reminding me of a class I dislikes just now. No offenses intend, but I just don't find it useful, compared to my Ancient Greek & Romans Studies class. Also... I feels that I don't understand the materials.

    Plus, I thought my Art History didn't focus on the history of art and how it "changes", instead of trying to anaylses artwork.

    The final reason about why I'm not a fan of Art History is my professor. He can be very dull, and sometime, I don't agree with some things he said about, like video games or "modern art".
  19. Darth_Pixel Jedi Master

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    Wow padawan what an awesome story! I'm a kotor junkie so this is great. I live you you put a new face something so familiar to me. You definitely nail all of the undercurrents to the story that are going on under the surafce that made the game so freakin amazing.

    Course, I already know what's going to happen... ;)

    P.S. Can I get on the pm list if there is one? :p
  20. Darth_Scroobius Jedi Master

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    ?That is entirely not true.?

    Or is it:
    That is not entirely true.
    That is not true entirely.
    That is true not entirely.
    That is untrue in its entirety. :p

    ?First of all, you?re a Jedi now, too, so none of that ?you Jedi? business. Second of all, of course we have feelings. We just don?t let them control us.?

    Obi-Wan in ANH: "Stretch out with your feelings."
    Palpy in ROTJ: "Use your aggressive feelings, boy!"

    It has always seemed that Jedi were kind of ambivalent about their "feelings". I like your interpretation, except that it seems Obi-Wan sometimes conflates the Force and feelings.

    ?Me in your dreams? How do you know it?s not you in mine??

    Excellent use of in-game dialogue. I love that line.

    Few things in the world are more calming than a steady rain shower.

    Unless you're in it. Then it sucks. Umbrellas were invented for a reason.

    More open-minded people will tell you that there are many shades of grey between them. What they fail to recognize is that light and dark are merely the presence and absence of colour.

    Your British spellings are not lost on me.

    ?Matters plenty. If you can figure out what colour everything is, and if you know how colours interact, you?re in business. Experience tells me that colours in the Force work much the same way as colours would anywhere else, so it?s just a matter of knowing your theory, and knowing it well.?

    So Leiraya's colour theory is a model for viewing the world. And as the saying goes: "All models are wrong. But some are useful."

    Leiraya laughed self-deprecatingly. ?Well, they mentioned something about my underwater wicker basket weaving classes.?

    Underwater wicker basket weaving classes... for the non-swimmer?

    Excellent chapter. I thought the game glossed over the training to a huge degree. Nice to see more depth there.
  21. amidalachick Force Ghost

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    I loved "Brains", so I decided to check out some more of your work. I figured I'd start with this one. :D

    And I love it, too! Although I've never played KOTOR, and in fact know nothing about it, this story is great. Leiraya's so awesome! Barefoot people shall rule the world...if this global-warming thing keeps up so our toes don't freeze, that is. :p

    Seriously, this is great. The "Force in color" theory was really interesting. Definitely a unique view of things, and I like it a lot. Excellent work!
  22. Lovely-in-Orange Jedi Knight

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    I really like how you've captured the game characters and worked in your OCs together. The banter is great. The colour theory was neat too - of course I'm kinda partial to colours. :D If you do PMs can you add me to the list? :)
  23. Commander-DWH Shiny Costuming & Props Manager

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    Crazydan: I loved my art history prof. Then again, he's crazy and awesome and encourages us to subvert the system whenever possible. Hard grader, but I learned a lot and enjoyed lecture, so it all worked out. And hey, I got a fanfic concept out of it, so how can I complain?

    Darth_Pixel:
    *bows* Why, thank you, my Master. You've been added to the PM list of d00m, a.k.a. the back of a calendar page taped to my desk. :p

    Scroobius: Hey, I like running around in a good rainstorm. We had a good run of them my freshman year, and we'd all run outside and play frisbee. Good times, those.

    amidalachick: I never thought I'd attract readers with zombies... but hey, whatever works. :p Glad you enjoyed, even if you don't know KOTOR. This is intended to be KOTOR for people who haven't played KOTOR anyway, so with any kind of luck you won't have any problems understanding what's going on.

    Lovely-in-Orange: Consider yourself added. :D Glad you enjoyed, and the world needs more people partial to colours. That way, when I yank out a crazy theory involving them, I don't get funny looks (as much).

    And now, for your reading enjoyment, I give you the next installment.

    This chapter has been brought to you by Procrastinators of Tomorrow, Inc. :p

    Chapter Eight

    ?What?s this thing do agai- ow!?

    ?What did you do this time??

    ?It bit me!? Leiraya extracted herself from the pit in which she had been tinkering. Since it had been decided that she was to stay with the crew, Aiden had insisted that she learn how to do something useful if she wasn?t willing to fight. After deciding that months of dishwashing were likely to make her brain implode, she settled on learning to repair and maintain the Hawk. The first day she?d attempted to learn anything hadn?t gone so well- Canderous hadn?t taken a terrible amount of liking to her pacifistic streak, so almost nothing got done while they argued. At the end of the day, she knew where the tools were, but that was approximately all she could claim. This was clearly not helpful, and thus Carth was relegated to teaching her to repair things.

    ?Well, maybe next time you shouldn?t stick your hand in there while you?re tightening it down.?

    ?You could?ve warned me.? She examined her fingers, noting a small trail of blood inching its way towards her palm. ?I didn?t know it was going to snap shut like that.?

    ?Don?t you Jedi have some sort of danger sense to keep that sort of thing from happening?? Carth rummaged through his pockets, trying to find a small bandage. Having no success, he walked over to the medkit to pull a new one out. ?At least, that?s always the impression they liked to give us during the war.?

    ?I guess? though it?s really not supposed to be a big deal when you?re in the process of tightening a bolt down.? Carth handed her the bandage, and she deftly wrapped it around the abused finger. ?Thanks.?

    ?Not a problem. And I think we?ll call that enough for today.? He picked up the hydrospanner she?d dropped on the floor and placed it back in the tool box. ?Maybe tomorrow we?ll work on putting things back together without killing yourself.?

    ?Hey, I?m not that inept.? She sat silent for a few moments, stroking her finger until she remembered something. ?You owe me a story.?

    ?Pardon??

    ?A story. I told you about Kylan, you promised you?d tell me about? whatever it is that makes you so frustrating.?

    ?I?m not frustrating. You?re the frustrating one here.?

    ?See? You?re nice until you hear something you don?t like.? She wrinkled her nose in annoyance. ?You should really stop that.?

    ?I?m not-? he broke off, shaking his head. ?I?m not going to get anywhere with this, am I??

    Leiraya paused to consider. ?Not until you tell me your story.?

    ?Fine. I already told Aiden, so what the hell? I told you that Malak destroyed my home. Telos, to be specific. It was one of the first worlds to be targeted by the Sith fleet. It was?? he trailed off, at a loss for words. ?I can?t
  24. RK_Striker_JK_5 Force Ghost

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    First off, good luck on the paper. I'll be pulling for you.

    Second off...

    The Jedi, it seemed, were not only masters of the Force. They appeared to have cornered the market on enigma and general vagueness, as well.

    LOLOLOLOL!!!!!! I loved that, DWH! At least someone realized that. And poor Carth, to be betrayed by that commander. Hmm, I detect sparks between Leiraya. Heh.
  25. padawanlissa Jedi Master

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