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PT The "Chosen One" prophecy

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by darklordoftech, Mar 4, 2013.

  1. TheRevanchist

    TheRevanchist Jedi Knight star 2

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    Frankly speaking, didn't ever liked those episodes with The Ones. Also, Darth Plagueis didn't created Anakin. Anakin was created from the Force as a counter-reaction to Darth Plagueis plans to create life (Darth Plagueis novel).
     
  2. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    The novel actually leaves it pretty vague as to whether it was Plagueis, The Force, or both, that created Anakin.

    (Both, would mean that the Force "let" Plagueis do it but gave Anakin a purpose, or destiny.)
     
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  3. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Force Ghost star 5

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    Yes. The revelation of Anakin's existence frightened Plagueis, thinking he had inadvertantly spelled the Sith's doom.
     
  4. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    Not everyone was surprised about the fact that they still existed. Yoda, in particular, argued against the assumption that they were extinct.

    Not all Sith are created equal, so to speak. Think of the ability to unbalance the Force as a Force power that was discovered by a later generation of Sith. It makes little sense to see Anakin as the solution to a problem created by his own existence.

    "In The Phantom Menace one of the Jedi Council already knows the balance of the Force is starting to slip, and will slip further. It is obvious to this person that the Sith are going to destroy this balance." - George Lucas

    "As evil begins to take over, it pushes the Force out of balance." - George Lucas
     
  5. Saintheart

    Saintheart Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I'd go one step further: it's only Ki-Adi-Mundi who says it's "impossible" that Darth Maul was a Sith, the impossibility being because the Sith have been extinct for a millennia. Mace doesn't exclude the possibility that the Sith might return, only that they would have expected the Jedi to be aware of it if he did. And it's Yoda who then speculates the Sith might return without the Jedi being aware of it, since "hard to see, the Dark Side is". And by the end of TPM, Mace at least explicitly concedes Darth Maul was, indeed, a Sith - the only debate remaining whether Maul was the master or the apprentice.
     
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  6. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I always thought the existence of the Sith is what unbalanced The Force, but those quotes imply that it's the rise of Palpatine that unbalanced The Force.
     
  7. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    There were Sith around during the period before the Force went out of balance.
     
  8. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    The movies never say when The Force went out of balance.
     
  9. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Force Ghost star 5

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    I wished Lucas would have clarified all this Prophecy crap in the films, but now it's too late to do anything to fix it. [face_sigh] It just makes the Jedi Order (who was supposed to be in its prime at this time) look like nothing more than a bunch of ignorant incompetents. :(

    I don't know about you guys, but to say that two Sith could do so much to corrupt the Force and confuse the hell out of TEN THOUSAND of these so called Jedi Knights is a bit ridiculous. Lucas either painted himself into a corner with this Prophecy plotline and didn't know how to get out of it, or he's telling us that the Sith are doing something new and different with their powers that they hadn't done before. But since he didn't tell us, it comes off as stupid and diminishes what the Jedi are all about. So instead, we get a bunch of blind fools who could do nothing to prevent their fall.
     
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  10. Jcuk

    Jcuk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    They were all mind numbingly stupid and ignorant to all the hints of who was behind everything. Didnt Anakin say it was their mandate to investigate? Well we think he's definitely got something to do with it (Palpatine) but rather than put a couple of experienced knights to thoroughly investigate this man and get to the bottom of this. We'll just put someone to have a little spy on him. I mean the Darkside has returned after a 1000 years and everything's becoming ****ed up but let's not rush into anything and tread on too many toes.
     
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  11. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    This.
     
  12. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Force Ghost star 5

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    Yeah, but what?
     
  13. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    The power to directly affect the balance of the Force.
     
  14. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Force Ghost star 5

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    Yeah, I know. But how are they doing it?
     
  15. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    In the Lucasverse: By gaining political power
    In the Darth Plagueis novel: Dark Side Meditation
     
  16. Darth Dominikkus

    Darth Dominikkus Jedi Knight star 3

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    I feel like the prophecy of the Chosen One was a legend that became true, while at the same time gave hope to the needy republic. The Chosen One was a prophecy that not all accepted, such as Mace Windu, for reasons we don't know. The possibility of Anakin perhaps being the Chosen One left doubts, however, he was the Chosen One.

    To answer your question, it goes both ways. The prophecy supposedly states that the Chosen One, Anakin, will destroy the Sith and bring balance to the force, however, it is not stated for how long this balance will last. It could be a year, or a century, we don't know. All we know is that the Chosen One comes to redeem the lost good in the galaxy and to bring a balance to all things.
     
  17. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    I hope it's more than a year.
     
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