ST The Force, the Chosen One, Balance, and the ST

It is EU but it constitutes its own level of canon that is just below the films. This is due to the large amount of influence Lucas had over it, as Krueger said. Which makes it disconcerting when something like Mortis comes along and completely contradicts earlier statements on the nature of the force that directly play into how the prophecy business works.

...Except i don't think Luke has any idea about the prophecy, and we have no idea what other Jedi presence there will be. It's likely the prophecy won't come up simply because there will be no one around to have heard of it.

 

But the audience does, and I see absolutely no reason to believe that Luke wasn't told anything we don't see him being told.

 

Yeah, I was talking about balance between the sides of the Force... and that the dark side is natural when it's a small part of the whole. I didn't say that use of the dark side wasn't just as strong as the "light side" use that the Jedi go by when they follow the will of the Force. The movies seem to indicate that the dark side actually makes one stronger, even though Yoda says it's just faster and easier. And I agree that neither view (Sith or Jedi) is a complete one because they both have opposing agendas. Even the prophecy itself is a creation of the Jedi, so it's probably biased in favor of their view.

 

This is directly from Pablo Hidalgo in thew Essential Reader's Companion on Canon and Continuity:

'Common questions are: How "real" are the stories? Do they count? Did they really happen?

The most definitive canon of the Star Wars Universe is encompassed by the feature films and television productions in which George Lucas is directly involved. The movies and the television series are what he and his hand picked writers reference when adding cinematic adventures to the Star Wars oeuvre.'

So there is the official answer on what is EU and what isn't. AND what's really interesting is that Pablo confirmed in the ERC that Lucas and his handpicked writers were adding to the Saga and nobody paid attention to it. So when Lucas and Arndt were writing up the Sequel Trilogy they were using the six movies and TCW as canon for the new stories.

 

To me, the Sith view it as equal (or even superior) because of the strength they think it gives them. That's what they care about. Again, I'm not saying that the usage of the dark side makes them weaker than the "light side" usage that the Jedi practice. I just don't see the dark side itself as naturally being 50% of the Force as a whole. That doesn't mean it doesn't give the user as much strength, though. But their using it does make it grow, which clouds the Jedi's ability to see things in the Force, throws the Force out of balance, etc.

 

I think GL later changed his mind going considering what he says in the AOTC commentary.

 

GL changed his intent, but failed to show his new intent to the general audience.

 

All that clarifies is "what's highest canon and what isn't."

The phrase "EU" does not mean "stuff that isn't highest canon" it means "stuff that isn't the movies."

But that's a digression from the basic topic- which is The Chosen One and The Prophesy.

 

How about this: The light and dark sides are back in balance. The next step (which the ST will be about) is to destroy the Dark Side.

 

How do you destroy the dark side? Life creates it. I think the problem is that Lucas himself has been all over the map on the nature of the force. The force we see described in Empire isn't the force of the PT. The darkside simply is, it lives on Dagobah as an example, it grows from aspects of life there.They need to get back to that vision, and strip away all of this PT baggage.

 

Nothing is ever stated about what creates the Dark Side.

 

Light depends on dark for its meaning. If you take away one, the other ceases to be intelligible. Identity is dependent on its other. When we say "light" we are also in a very literal sense saying "not dark," and vice versa.

So there is an irony is positing the light as superior when it is actually a dependent.

 

"Anger, fear, aggression- the dark side are they".

Perhaps the dark side was created the first time the emotions of anger, fear etc were felt by a living being?

 

It's kind of a chicken and the egg senario. Life creates the force, yet the dark side is shown to tempt life. The way I see it, the Darkside always existed. It would exist without intelligent people around to use it. It simply is an aspect of life. As true and real as the good.

 

Which brings me to something I would absolutely hate: the ST trying to "outdo" I-VI.

 

Just to play devils advocate, perhaps evil and darkness are meant to live outside of the force. You don't find much darkness inside a light bulb that is turned on.

 

What does that mean?