Arawn_Fenn, I agree with your POV, but Son of a Bith and I are having a discussion about interpreting the Saga without considering authorial intent. We're just throwing around different ideas about how the films can be interpreted, ignoring what GL has said or the EU. Doing that opens the films up to possibly multiple valid interpretations as long as each of those interpretations don't contradict what happens in the films themselves. BTW, I like the name you chose to give yourself. Sounds like a real SW name. I wish I had put a little more time into thinking about mine.