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TCW Episode The Clone Wars - 5.15 - Shades of Reason - discussion thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by Seerow, Jan 23, 2013.

  1. Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan

    Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    The only reason the YJ does not attract the same "views" is cause the other arcs were not as paraded and forced!
    When you promote something like crazy and force it on everybody as the best thing from the show - of course, people will eventually fall into the trap of fan service and lame plot holes that is this arc.
     
  2. LadyTila

    LadyTila Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Second part of episode is much better.Maul and Viszla fight was beyond awesome.Viszla hold himself quite good,impressive.One of the best fights on a show.
     
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  3. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    man you do not like badass and credible villains [face_laugh]
     
  4. Zabrak 2

    Zabrak 2 Jedi Padawan star 2

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    No doubt Clovis will get you in a better mood.
     
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  5. Super_Battle_Droid

    Super_Battle_Droid Jedi Master star 5

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    Not true, he likes Grievous.



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  6. ImNotAStarWarsFanboy

    ImNotAStarWarsFanboy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Oh please, they could have promoted the ever living **** out of Young Jedi but no way would it ever have attracted as much attention as Darth ****ing Maul coming back and working with ****ing Mandalorians. You can prattle on about how you're immune to the allure of fan service but there's a reason why it's called fan service. It's designed to titillate the senses and attract attention. To the average Star Wars fan this arc ticks all the boxes. A story about Jedi younglings building their lightsabers and working in travelling circuses doesn't.
     
  7. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Grievous isn't a credible or badass villain, he got his butt kicked by Gungans
     
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  8. Mr. Atom Bomb

    Mr. Atom Bomb Jedi Knight star 1

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    ...No, I'm guessing he just doesn't like the concept of a "badass" villain being force-fed repeatedly to viewers, and I'm in complete agreement. The grim twins need to go, NOW.

    It's fan service of the lowest form, and it really is quite bad. Had all this happened without Maul we would have had time for plenty of more scenes fleshing out the state of affairs in Mandalore that allowed for such a rapid take-over (which might have made it seem less ridiculous), while also making it feel like more of a political struggle rather then another revenge scheme. The writers/creative team/whoever are sacrificing the integrity and weight of the story by adding Maul just to garner views. Though I can see why it might be necessary it's absolutely frustrating and I think really damages the show in the long run.

    I came away from this episode thinking that had Maul not been there this arc might have been really enjoyable. As it is now I can only groan every time he appears and hope that his end will come soon.

    The only plus was the duel. Very well choreographed, and went on for far longer than I thought it would.
     
  9. Darth_Zandalor

    Darth_Zandalor Jedi Master star 4

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    Good... Good! Let the hate flow through you!
     
  10. Super_Battle_Droid

    Super_Battle_Droid Jedi Master star 5

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    Theysa warriors, theysa got a Grand Army. :p
     
  11. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Grievous would lose all of his rep if he got beat by Jar Jar alone :p
     
  12. Zabrak 2

    Zabrak 2 Jedi Padawan star 2

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    Is everyone on Mandalore Blondys.
     
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  13. Merric

    Merric Jedi Knight star 1

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    Oh my god. Don't even give them ideas.
     
  14. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    The idea that returning from the dead after being bisected above one's intestines is "credible" is laughable to say the least.

    Maul was a "badass and credible villain" in TPM. In TCW he's just ridiculous.
     
  15. ImNotAStarWarsFanboy

    ImNotAStarWarsFanboy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    They were designed to look Scandinavian IIRC.
     
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  16. Merric

    Merric Jedi Knight star 1

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    Someone needs to make A montage of all the times Maul gets hit/kicked this season.
     
  17. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    i doubt Filoni and the others even read these forums :p
     
  18. Dathomir-Witch

    Dathomir-Witch Jedi Knight star 2

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    No. I think, I also saw one redhead.[face_thinking]
     
  19. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    Overall it's good for a TCW episode, but just like last one, it's way too rushed, the characterization is bad. I don't know why did they make so many childish episodes rather than focus season 5 on this arc?

    They made Satine an idiot, she did nothing but say some ideal words, even told Maul brothers Alemc's corrupted nature and they were seeking a puppet.

    Viszla is another idiot, he could kill Maul when he had him arrested, but instead he put the brothers in the same cell hello? And then he chose to duel and returned Maul's weapon rather than let his Deathwatch blow their head off.
     
  20. Mia Mesharad

    Mia Mesharad Jedi Master star 4

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    Not once we get out of Sundari...

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  21. Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan

    Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    No, I hate lame and forced "has beens" :p Maul sucked!
    Almec was cooler than him...

    Love your post, Mr. Atom Bomb. Totally agreed on all your well said points...


    Jeeeezzzzz... Stop bringing that up... That had nothing to do with the fact that Maul sucks!
    [face_laugh]

    Maul screamed like a girl when he got a little scratch and ran away - that is really credible.


    Yes, Zabrak, the Clovis episodes are what I am waiting for.


    Totally agree with your awesome post. TCW Maul is ridiculous!
     
  22. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    Also I have a level 50 Bounty Hunter Powertech in SWTOR, I must say as a Mandalorian it's just dumb to waste time on sword fight training, and use sword against Jedi/Sith rather than get some missiles, flame thrower and other stuff.
     
  23. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    This arc really could have been done much better if they use the whole season 5 to focus on it, but instead they made so many childish episodes.
     
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  24. Merric

    Merric Jedi Knight star 1

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    Agreed. This season should have been very Maul heavy, but instead Maul really only appeared at the beginning, and near then end of the season. A real letdown.
     
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  25. Theo333

    Theo333 Jedi Master star 3

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    -Viszla dueling Maul was awesome. So surprised Maul was smart enough to take advantage of Viszla's pride.
    -"What do you want, monster?" Mildly annoyed rather than angry Satine LOL
    -Hot damn, Viszla was using every dirty trick in the book during that fight. Beautiful.
    -Hey Viszla, you idiot, why don't you just kill Maul right there at gunpoint?

    10/10