Full Series The Clone Wars - 5.16 - Lawless - discussion thread

No, of course it's bad, but the other choice, is worse.

There is no good and bad choices sometimes, only bad and worse.

 

Not just Obi Wan, the Jedi, mostly.

 

As we can see, the Jedi mostly decided to do NOTHING, one of them came to rescue but still could not put down the discipline, thus Mandalore is covered in fire and death now.

 

I don't think he's trolling or taking the **** or whatever. I used to, but he's too consistent.

I wish he were, now I feel bad for getting such amusement from him before. :S

 

Wait, so saying Jedi aren't always the best choice is trolling?

So compare to that, let CIS involve to maintain peace, stop this civil conflict, remove Maul from power and keep herself alive, is better for her belief and her people.

 

No not at all. I started typing that post before I saw the most recent exchanges. I'm talking about the monolithic obsession with Satine in general. No offence.

 

This is almost a comedy.

We just need a really campy gay guy to walk by and go "Oh, you!"

In the interest of changing the subject, I'd like to say that the episode was great, but the pacing sucked. I would have preferred that this episode be split into two, with the Twilight being destroyed and Obi-Wan and Satine being captured as the end of the first part. The rapid pacing makes it so we're missing out on a lot of scenes which would have been nice. A conversation between Satine and Bo-Katan, for starters.

We probably could have taken an episode from the previous arc. That idiot space frog wasn't using it properly, anyways. God, that arc was a joke. I really want the real Delta Squad (of clone commandos) to come by and kick their asses.

 

When there is no better choice, it's reasonable for a politician.

The most unemotional individuals in SW history I've seen are mostly Sith, such as Sith Emperor, Darth Jadus and Darth Plagueis.

It got nothing to do with the topic so I didn't take a look.

 

To be fair, Anakinfan (while I do agree with you), the theory is it's better to stay alive to fight another day. If that means inviting the CIS to take over Mandalore, well, at least Mandalore isn't ablaze in civil war and flames.

I totally think, as well, that said poster is totally missing/ignoring/doesn't understand your "be his *****" so that is going over his head.

I think what is missing from "that line" of discussion is that Satine is such a principled, pacifist ruler, that she wouldn't even consider throwing her lot in with unprincipled knaves - the cost to her would be greater than she is willing to pay, even for Mandalore.

(By the way, what does "=B" mean?)

 

Well, to fight would be to violate her no-fighting rules...

 

Also, it's not like Satine must obey Dooku all the way, once Mandalore joined CIS, then the Republic and Jedi could get involved, she could secretly contact with the Jedi and the Republic, use them to weaken CIS' control over Mandalore, then declare independence again when the time is right. Use both the Jedi and the Sith to restore peace and true independence, that would make her a great character.

 

Uh huh, get the CIS on planet, call in the Republic, have another war take place - yeah, I can see peacenik Satine going for that. Not. Not in her character.

 

It's not like there must be a big war, but she could keep it in small scale conflicts such as Onderon to limit the casualties.

Yeah, she's too ideal, and idiotic in this arc.

 

I actually really like the pace. I love dense writing and I really thought this story benefited from it. I far prefer to be left wanting more, rather than underwhelmed.

 

And this thread just set the episode thread record for most comments.

This thread would like to thank Seerow for creating it, Slowpokeking for his many provocative comments and TCW for having Sidious, Maul, Savage, Kenobi and two factions of Mandalorians fighting in one episode.

 

This is a fun line of AUness with Dooku coming to the planet's aid ... but, thinking back to S.2, Satine's use of the Jedi worked. Mandalore did stay neutral, Death Watch was ousted for the time being, and so, being human *GFFA human, anyway* she sought to use what worked before. It all blew up in her face, however.

 

(At the record)

 

That's because the situation wasn't that bad, and most importantly, she was still the leader of Manadalore rather than got overthrew already.

 

I was just doing my job guys. Well done with the discussion. -Fists bumps- For everyone!

I think I passed 8,000 in this thread.