Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by han_solo_321, Feb 4, 2009.
"Also -- not sure what you mean by his # 1 general -- isn't that Grevious?"
Thats what I meant.
Good thread! I like trying to figure out where these episodes fit. It's like a puzzle! Obviously, there's a lot of different options to go with. Kind of makes me sad for the day they release the official order, which no doubt will take in the webcomics -- which were made to go with the airing order, not the intended chronological order of the shows, if I'm not mistaken.
I thought I read somewhere that when critics were shown an early screening of Ambush, they were told it was "4 or 5" episodes into the season, but it was one of the episodes that really sold CN on TCW.
So if we're pretty sure Downfall/Duel of the Droids were supposed to be right around the beginning, Ambush was going to be right after.
The OS has told us Season 2 is going to jump around even more, to different points in the Clone Wars, I believe it's implying. Whether or not that means they've decided to go beyond say the last 6 months of the war (or whatever we decided), I'm curious to see.
Re: that last point, recent publications indicate the series is not set during the last 6 months as was speculated, but somewhere in it's first year- there'll just be some rearranged timeline placements for existing CW sources featuring Anakin as a padawan so that they take place a little earlier. But that's a discussion for the continuity thread, not this one.
The jumping around will certainly make things...interesting, so far as episode order goes.
How many episodes are in season 1 and when will season 2 air?
There are 22 episodes in Season 1 (with 4 additional episodes produced that were turned into the movie. Season 2 is expected to debut in the fall.
I prayed it would be back sooner than that!!!!!!
Hey welcome to the boards person above me.
I never got the sense this was taking place during the last 6 months of the war, despite Grevious being in it. It def. feels like about 6 months into the war. I think Traviss said as much.
Also, I think it was Steve Sansweet who said it was late, but that was really early on before this thing got going. I believe.
Anyway, whatever they announce I am going to keep my order because it still works (meaning there is nothing to contradict it in the episodes).
Well, initial speculation was it would be the last 6 months since that was the most logical place to fit it without having to rearrange the existing timeline- and references made by Traviss in TCW books could be retconned as being adaptation errors due to the uncertainty of the subject at the time of production. But not it seems they will be rearranged some of the timeline.
I like that it is not chronological. Over the next few seasons, they can do a lot with that. For example, suppose your one of your favourite characters is killed. That does not mean that flashbacks or time-travel will be needed to tell more stories with that character, plus the added drama that you know how things will end for them
Do we have a ,,strategical map,, for the clone wars like we had fore the Vong war?
I don't think so.
It would be nice it LFL/Leland started to rearrange the books/comics a bit to fit with the TCW stuff so far. And just for them to say "this is only tentative, guys" rather than us having to wait 3, 4 or even 5 years for this show to end.
The LFL Clone Wars timelines at the beginnings of the book are easy fixes, I'm just curious how they plan to address any specific dates mentioned in the books if it condradicts TCW.
Where would you place the two new episodes?
I myself can't find a logical place for them to really fit. But your order works perfectly for me, with two minor alteration. I have Ambush right after the Droid arch and Lair of Grievous after Defenders of Peace.
Great work on the order
,,Where would you place the two new episodes? ,,
Definetly after ,,The Hidden Enemy,,
Ahh.. So between Hidden Enemy and the movie, then?
Your answer makes no sense and really doesn't help in any way
The "newsreel" footage on ROOKIES showed clips from LAIR OF GREVIOUS, CLOAK OF DARKNESS and AMBUSH. That could mean it happened after those episodes or if it truly was the "pilot" episode the "newsreel" footage was meant to show us what was to come in future episodes. It works either way....
Yeah, but even though those were all released out of order, they still let you know what the order WAS. Indiana Jones used real-world dates so you could tell what went where, and the SW films weren't THAT out of order - three films in order followed by three films that took place before those three but also in order.
And as others have mentioned, it's annoying when characters refer to things that have already happened in the story but which we know nothing about because that episode hasn't aired yet. It's like if the second episode aired of Battlestar Galactica was a third season episode with someone saying, "Yup, sucks that X is a Cylon" when the episode in which that reveal takes place hasn't aired yet.
Thanks! Sorry I didn't see this earlier. Your placing of Ambush works, but doesn't Lair of Grievous have to come earlier, like right after cloak of darkness, because it is the third part of the Gunray trilogy?
As for the last two episodes... tough call. I don't want them to follow the Defenders of Peace episode because then we would go from one virus episode to another with no break in between so I'm going to place them earlier. Here's the revised list. You'll notice I also moved Trespass because I though it would be nice to get into the war a bit more before we take a detour to a side story. I also moved rookies so that we open the series now with Hidden Enemy. It's not my favorite episode to open with because we don't really know the clones before we start to get into the whole "slaves to the Jedi" concept, but I think in the end we should start with Obi-wan and Anakin.
The Hidden Enemy
The Clone Wars movie
Cloak of Darkness
Lair of Grevious
Downfall of a Droid
Duel of the Droids
Blue Shadow Virus
Mystery of a 1000 moons
The Gungan General
Shadow of Malevolence
Defenders of Peace
Wow, and here I was thinking most of the episodes were in order aside from a couple stragglers. . . I think I need to watch them all over again.
This is actually, for the most part, just my personal preference list. In terms of flow. Nothing's official yet. Try watching this way, I think you'll like it.
As fanboy says, that order is just a fan-made viewing order. For the most part, you're right that the airing order is more or less correct, with a couple exceptions (primarily Droids duo and Hidden Enemy).
Take a look at my post earlier in the thread and you'll find the chronological and production order viewing orders which would be the most accurate as far as we know.
Something I noticed about Jedi Crash is that the opening narration features scenes from Cloak of Darkness in particular.
I wonder if that means Cloak happened just before it.
At the very least it suggests it happens after Cloak.
Aren't there also shots of Anakin's fleet in the asteroid ring from "Downfall of a Droid"?
The stock shots in the intros are going to make this tough, huh?