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TCW Episode The Clone Wars: Episode 204: Senate Spy Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by Gry Sarth, Oct 13, 2009.

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  1. Gry Sarth

    Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod star 5

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    [hl=black]PLEASE DO NOT DISCUSS SPOILERS FOR EPISODES 205 OR LATER IN THIS THREAD.

    Use the General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed) thread for any discussion beyond Episode 204![/hl]


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    "A true heart should never be doubted."


    Synopsis: At the Jedi Council's request, Padmé investigates a Separatist conspiracy in the Senate.

    Director: Steward Lee
    Writer: Melinda Hsu
    Supervising Writer: Drew Z. Greenberg
    Staff Writer: Brian Larsen
    Key Characters: Senator Padmé Amidala; Anakin Skywalker; C-3PO; R2-D2; Senator Rush Clovis; Senator Lott Dod; Poggle the Lesser
    Key Locales: Coruscant; Cato Neimoidia


    Explore the Official Episode Guide [link=http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/guide/episode204.html]HERE[/link]
    Check out the official webcomic tie-in [link=http://www.starwars.com/clonewars/comic/]HERE![/link] (once posted)
     
  2. FistoFan93

    FistoFan93 Jedi Knight star 4

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    Hm, Rush Clovis must be the senator that we saw in the trailers. and cato neimodia....awesome. do you guys think this is the first part of the "geonosis trilogy"?
     
  3. cwquest

    cwquest Jedi Youngling star 1

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    This episode just isn't saying "action" to me. Dont get me wrong, i loved the last episode for all it's OT nods and character development and im sure that this episode will be once again up to the very high standard already set this season.

    But....

    Im really itching for some clanker scrapping. All the previews looked like we were in for a season of top to bottom explosion riddled force ruckus but so far we've had like one and a half decent fights.


    They should change the title of the show to "Clone Disputes"


    on a side note, do you think we're gonna see Lucas's version of "that business on Cato Neimoidia" that doesnt count?
     
  4. FistoFan93

    FistoFan93 Jedi Knight star 4

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    you know, you can't have all episodes like boom bang action adventure. I must say that for season 1, I had originally thought of Trespass to be a boring diplomatic episode, but it turned out to be great. I understand your worries though, since we don't get a preview video anymore and we don't know what to expect, but George Lucas doesn't make boring things (aside from Ep. 1)
     
  5. Gry Sarth

    Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod star 5

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    I have nothing against a couple of non-action episodes, as long as they are well written. If they take these chances for some good character development and cool dialogue, I'm all for it.

    I don't get why people always complain that the show is called Clone Wars and yet only about half of it deals directly with the wars. The series is called Star Wars, and yet more than half of the films were not about the Galactic Civil War directly, it was farmboys chasing droids, cantina brawls, training in swamps, fighting gangsters, etc...
     
  6. cwquest

    cwquest Jedi Youngling star 1

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    But even with all the droid chasing and swamp somersaults the films still peaked with some sort of massive throwdown at the end. If these are "mini-movies" especially "mini starwars movies" should they not follow suit?

    Its really not a major gripe with the series, I honestly dont mind the odd wordy episode, but if friday's episode plays out without any real "agressive negotiation" i shall be a tiny bit miffed as 3 of the 4 episodes have been this way.

    Also, why do character development and action have to be exclusive? Trespass had a fair share of both and worked out fantastic. Best episode of season 1 IMO.
     
  7. cwquest

    cwquest Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Actually, I just lied, Trespass was my second favourite. Hostage Crisis was my favourite episode because of all the brutal killing.

    I was trying to sound less shallow :)
     
  8. FistoFan93

    FistoFan93 Jedi Knight star 4

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    I do have to admit that I like the action episodes the best, liberty on ryloth, jedi crash, hostage crisis, children of the force... and I'm sure this episode will have a bit of action in it. Trust in the crew.

    Also, usually on Wednesday evening(US)/Thursday morning(EU) the official article + episode clip are posted at the OS and bigshinyrobot. These may give you a better picture as what to expect from this episode.
     
  9. FistoFan93

    FistoFan93 Jedi Knight star 4

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    btw, should you guys "lock" this thread on the top of the first page?
     
  10. Garth Maul

    Garth Maul Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Gry doesn't have his full moderator powers for a few weeks yet, so I had to edit the thread to make it sticky.

    Unfortunately I wasn't able to expand the photo, so you'll just have to suffer or see it embiggened right now:

    <img src="http://www.starwars.com/img/theclonewars/guide/epguide204.jpg">
     
  11. Gry Sarth

    Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod star 5

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    Yes, but since I'm not a Manager yet, I had to wait for one of my esteemed colleagues to do that.


    Yeah, I was afraid you wouldn't be able to use your Manager-html-powers to edit my post and make the picture look right. Guess I should wait until I'm a Manager before posting another episode thread.
     
  12. Alexrd

    Alexrd Force Ghost star 5

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    Hopefully this episode will lead to the Geonosis episode arc.
     
  13. Garth Maul

    Garth Maul Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Hopefully this episode will not be incredibly lame.
     
  14. Gry Sarth

    Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod star 5

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    Padmé investigating a senator is not the most intriguing of premises, that's for sure. As long as it's well written I don't care if the episode is not all that exciting, they can't all be winners....
     
  15. Garth Maul

    Garth Maul Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, I expect the dialogue will be pretty good, it's just I can tell you what happens right now:

    (1) From the clip, the Council has suspicions on this one Senator. They want Padme to spy on him.

    (2) Padme plays the seductress to get close to the Senator. Anakin comes in at the wrong moment, with Padme being a great actress, and loses it, blowing Padme's cover and they get to have their first big couple's screaming match onscreen.

    (3) Lots of foreshadowing for what happens on Mustafar in ROTS.

    (4) The end.
     
  16. Alexrd

    Alexrd Force Ghost star 5

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    You forgot: "Count Dooku's new droid foundry. Jedi Council has to see this evidence."

    And then, hopefully, Geonosis arc with Ki-Adi as a bonus.
     
  17. SpecialOpsUnit

    SpecialOpsUnit Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah, this is obviously the first episode of the Geonosis Arc.
     
  18. Garth Maul

    Garth Maul Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Or Padme will get ticked at Anakin and go to Cato Neimoidia herself, transmit the data to Anakin, and get kidnapped by Poggle and taken to Geonosis.
     
  19. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Padme is going to die! oh no! :rolleyes:
     
  20. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Ok. The folks directing the shows by now MUST have had, perhaps once, just fleetingly, the slight notion that maybe, just maybe, the Padme's-been-kidnapped plot has happened once before?

    Or twice before? Thrice? Ten times? Maybe more?


    And now she's traveling to one of, if not THE, Trade Federation home base? For what? Just some kicks and giggles?

    Did some Lucasfilm elite decide "Hey, Padme's been captured waaay too many times already. Let's make her volunteer this time!"

    At this point I'm surprised she survived long enough to have Luke and Leia.
     
  21. Mekairinek

    Mekairinek Jedi Youngling star 1

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    What Barriss Coffee said.

    Padme has become a total joke character, IMHO. I'd rather take an Ahsoka-centric episode over yet another 'Padme gets captured' one.
     
  22. Garth Maul

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    maybe Anakin will get captured lolz
     
  23. Humble_Jedi

    Humble_Jedi Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm not really looking forward to this one. For one, I don't like Padme in this series. One moment she's like some Lara Croft and the other she's just some girl who doesn't really remind me of the Padme in the films. Maybe it's her voice, I don't know. She really annoys me, also in Hostage Crisis.

    But then again, I wasn't really looking forward to the last episode either, and it blew me away. (Except that they unnecessarily used Mustafar, in my opinion.)
     
  24. Jamit

    Jamit Jedi Youngling

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    If you remember, Anakin actually did get captured in the last episode with Padme.

    I'm really looking forward to this episode. If handled right, this could advance the Padme and Anakin relation in a way that has not yet happened in this series. If handled right, we'll have to see.

    Has anyone found the trailer for this show yet? I still can't see it online.
     
  25. ObiWanJedi93

    ObiWanJedi93 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    This episode looks really good. I'm glad to see some Senate type episodes for once. Can't wait! Will be great as usual.
     
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