The Clone Wars: Episode 214: Duchess of Mandalore Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

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  1. Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod

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    PLEASE DO NOT DISCUSS SPOILERS FOR EPISODES 215 OR LATER IN THIS THREAD.

    Use the General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed) thread for any discussion beyond Episode 214!


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    "In war, truth is the first casualty."

    Synopsis: On Coruscant, word reaches Duchess Satine that Death Watch is mobilizing, sparking a pre-emptive Republic invasion. On the run from Republic authorities, Satine and Obi-Wan set off to discover the group's true motives.

    Director: Brian Kalin O'Connell
    Writer: Drew Z. Greenberg
    Staff Writer: Brian Larsen
    Key Characters: Obi-Wan Kenobi, Duchess Satine Kryze, Count Dooku, Chancellor Palpatine, Pre Vizsla
    Key Locales: Coruscant, Mandalore, Concordia

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    Check out the official webcomic tie-in HERE! (once posted)
  2. ZEM Jedi Knight

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    First post! =D=

    This episode looks awesome!!! :D
  3. Garth Maul Manager Emeritus

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    Mandalorians On Coruscant!

    Duchess Satine Kryze tries to keep the Republic from interfering in Mandalorian affairs after attacks by the Death Watch, the splinter group advocating a return to the old warrior ways. But when Satine herself is attacked and framed, she sets off -- against the better judgment of her Jedi protectors -- to uncover the full breadth of the conspiracy and the faction's true origins. No longer content to operate from the fringes, the mysterious Mandalorian Death Watch sets its sights on the "Duchess of Mandalore" in an all-new episode of Star Wars: The Clone Wars airing at 9:00 p.m. ET/PT Friday, February 12 on Cartoon Network.

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    "Satine is struggling with many fires now, and trying to keep them from merging into one large inferno that can't be put out," says Anna Graves, the voice of Satine in The Clone Wars. "She wants peace above all else, and will shout it as loud as she can. Historical pacifists are often met with more hatred and violence, but that seems to push someone like Satine to fight for peace even harder. I think with any culture that idolizes war and violence, some people will naturally rebel against that traditional way of thinking and focus their efforts on peace and tranquility. I'm sure a lot of people agree with her views, but I'm sure there are just as many who don't. Her neutrality in The Clone Wars is such a beautiful cry for love and peace, which throughout history has upset those who idolize power and control."

    Set against the backdrop of a sweeping conflict which threatens to consume the galaxy, Satine's struggle is all the more personal, however, as she faces upheaval from her within own constituency. Using violence as their language of dissent, the Death Watch threatens to unravel all of Satine's efforts, and to undermine the peace she has fought so hard to preserve. But the war itself is a battle of ideologies. Despite their extremism -- or perhaps because of it -- the radical faction represents a popular opinion among the re-emerging culture... as well as decades of fan fascination and rampant speculation.

    "I see Mandalore as an old world, full of history and tradition. After years of glimpses into Mandalorian lore, it's exciting to get new facts and faces," Graves says. "Every fan has their own reasons for loving Mandalore, but Boba Fett opened the door with his intriguing armor and history as a bounty hunter. I know fans will want to hear more about Death Watch -- and those who oppose them. To be a small part of that history is so exciting. Add a little Mandalorian -- Jedi romance, and that's good stuff!"
  4. GGrievous Chosen One

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    More about the Death Watch? Na, I already read Open Seasons. Good enough for me. :p
  5. Ludo_Kressh Jedi Grand Master

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    This is setting up to be one awesome arc...the last two episodes didn't dissappoint and this one looks to be just as good...can't wait!:D
  6. GGrievous Chosen One

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    I was disappointed with the first, I enjoyed seeing Obi-Wan and Anakin together in the second, and hopefully it will be the same for the third.
  7. Garth Maul Manager Emeritus

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    GG - I know you were upset they didn't go more into the Mando story last time, but I think they had to fit everything into Voyage of Temptation, since it was written a year ago or whatever.

    Now once again Death Watch will be front and center. [face_skull]
  8. GGrievous Chosen One

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    Garth-I see your point. I'm looking forward to see more Pre Vizsla action, though. He remembered me of a weak fighter in "The Mandalore Plot", and maybe in this upcoming episode, this will be his chance of showing everyone that the Death Watch are a powerful group.

    I like your idea of killing off Satine, Garth. Would be interesting to see Obi-Wan deal with his emotions, but he's able to control them.
  9. Garth Maul Manager Emeritus

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    The only thing that would be cooler if if a depressed Kenobi makes his way to Dex's Diner at the end of the episode. ;)
  10. GGrievous Chosen One

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    With the same entrance dialogue that's featured in AOTC, but this time, Obi-Wan is more depressed.

    Dex: Obi-Wan!
    Obi-Wan: *sniff* Hello...Dex.

    :p
  11. Game3525 Force Ghost

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    [face_laugh]

    Kenobi: "Hit me!"
    Dex: "I think you have had enough."
  12. Robimus Force Ghost

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    This sounds like it has so much potential!
  13. TheMacUnleashed Jedi Grand Master

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    This episode looks like it'll be a good one! This arc has been my favorite so far.

    Satine's death would be an interesting turn, I think; and not something I would object to seeing. As an EU fan, it would be fascinating to compare and contrast his reaction with her death to his with Siri's. [face_thinking]
  14. Humble_Jedi Force Ghost

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    Mandos + Coruscant = Epic Win

    That trailer, and those stills are sending shivers down my spine...
  15. ObiWanJedi93 Jedi Master

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    We got Dooku back (and not in holographic form!)! Even if he is only in it for 2 minutes, it's great seeing him plotting again. And Mando assassins on Coruscant is definitely epic.
  16. Darth_Zandalor Force Ghost

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    The animation on Dooku's face in the preview looks stunning.

    I am actually hoping that the Mandalorian Army doesn't feature too much in this episode, and rather focuses more on the assassin and Satine.

    That way, we can get an intense hunter vs hunted episode, and keep the Death Watch army for the season finale.
  17. SpecialOpsUnit Force Ghost

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    I hope Satine doesn't meet her end during this episode.

    I think it would be better later on maybe next season.
  18. fanboyskywalker Jedi Master

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    That was smart to put Dini's episode in between these two and extend the Satine/Obi-wan "romance" and draw out the Mandalorian stuff. Kept it from being too rushed.

    Interesting to see we are going back to Mandalore and even Concordia... the preview made it look like all the action took place on Coruscant.

    Man, I have a feeling this episode will have a great ending setting up for lots more stories down the road.

    Wouldn't it be stupid if Obi-wan stopped this Mandalorian threat after just three episodes? LOL.
  19. Garth Maul Manager Emeritus

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    You're talking about our version, right? :p
  20. SpecialOpsUnit Force Ghost

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    It definitely would.

    But I don't think Filoni and company would do that. Gives the Mandalorian's a chance to come back whenever as allies to the Separatists.
  21. Robimus Force Ghost

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    No, just this episode with the lone Mandalorian Assassin kicking butt on Coruscant. I still reserve judgement on the rest of this debacle.8-}
  22. Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod

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    I don't think we'll see much of these two places. I imagine the whole episode will take place on Coruscant, with a brief scene in Concordia to show the Death Watch gathering or something, and then a brief scene at the end with Satine returning to Mandalore for the final shot.
  23. Garth Maul Manager Emeritus

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    I'm okay with them being a force in the next 2 seasons; I like the dynamic and I agree it would be a shame to deal with them in the last 5 minutes of the episode.
  24. Veloz Force Ghost

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    This one looks to be another cool episode, cant wait!:D
  25. fanboyskywalker Jedi Master

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    Garth, are you saying you think the show is only going to last two more seasons or that you only want them around for two more seasons tops?
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