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TCW Episode The Clone Wars: Episode 303: Supply Lines Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by Gry Sarth, Sep 22, 2010.

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  1. Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod

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    PLEASE DO NOT DISCUSS SPOILERS FOR EPISODES 304 OR LATER IN THIS THREAD.

    Use the General Discussion (Spoilers Allowed) thread for any discussion beyond Episode 303!


    <img src="http://www.starwars.com/img/theclonewars/guide/epguide303.jpg">

    "Where there's a will, there's a way."

    Synopsis: Ryloth is under siege. Trapped on the surface, Jedi Master Di rallies the local forces with the help of Cham Syndulla. Desperate to save them, the Jedi Council dispatches Senator Bail Organa and Representative Jar Jar Binks to the planet Toydaria, where they are to convince the neutral regent, King Katuunko, to send aide to Ryloth.

    Director: Brian Kalin O'Conell
    Writer: Steven Melching, Eoghan Mahony
    Supervising Writer: Drew Z. Greenberg

    Key Characters: Senator Bail Organa, Representative Jar Jar Binks, Jedi Master Di, King Katuunko, Senator Lott Dod
    Key Locales: Ryloth, Toydaria

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  2. Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod

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    I don't understand this episode.

    - If it's a prequel to the Ryloth Trilogy, why is Cham Syndulla joining forces with the Republic, given that that was the whole point of Liberty on Ryloth?

    - If it isn't a prequel, then why is Katuunko neutral? Didn't he join the Republic in Ambush? Oh, unless Ambush actually takes place after all this. God, this is starting to hurt my head.

    - Fortune cookie... I guess they've given up trying to come up wih original messages, then? What's next, "It's better to be safe than sorry"? "An apple a day keeps the doctor away"? (could work for a new Nuvo Vindi episode...)

    PS: If they had spelled it "If there's a whill, there's a way", people would be fainting.
  3. Alexrd Jedi Grand Master

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    I believe it's a prequel to both "Ambush" and the Ryloth trilogy.

    Only now I realised that's Katuunko's throne room with more two toydarians.
  4. Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod

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    I weep for the diplomats and negotiators in the Star Wars galaxy. Must be terrible having their assignments continuously stolen by senators and senate representatives...
  5. Alexrd Jedi Grand Master

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    I think it makes sense, for now. It's a Jedi's job, but since they are at war, the senators take the lead.
  6. Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod

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    A senator is the representative of a planet or system in the republic senate. Why would they act as republic representatives for 3rd parties?

    I really don't understand this issue with Toydaria. If this is before Ambush, and Toydaria is neutral, how can they send forces to aid master Di without losing their neutrality? If it's after Ambush, well, then it doesn't make a lick of sense.
  7. FistoFan93 Jedi Knight

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    We were told we'd be getting prequels and sequels but this is getting me really confused 8-}
  8. Garth Maul Manager Emeritus

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    We know that Imagun Di is going to die already.

    Thanks, Filoni. Any dramatic tension that the episode might have had from seeing a Jedi who we don't see in the PT films is now lost.

    Seems like a such a pointless episode. Bad enough we had 3 prequel films to deal with, now we have prequels to prequels! [face_laugh]

    I guess Cham's views on the Republic could be explained away if the Republic isn't able to send aid in this episode....which would go against the Jedi Fortune Cookie. :rolleyes:



    EDIT: Gry, don't even get me started on the unbelievably idiotic politics in the Republic, everyone is apparently nobility and an elected official at the same time. Not to mention they apparently have different noble titles depending on the episode.

    And it's hilariously unrealistic to have Senators like Padme and Bail run off to find adventure.

    Probably the only time they accurately show Padme's real job is in the beginning of Hostage Crisis.
  9. Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod

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    Indeed. The timeline of this series is getting so convoluted that by now it's impossible to make sense of it all without some tridimensional roadmap.

    I have a feeling they won't really give us any explanation as to the placement of this episode in regards to Ambush and the Ryloth Trilogy. They'll just leave it to us to make sense of it all. Somehow.

    Well, the Republic won't send aid, but Toydaria surely will.
  10. Garth Maul Manager Emeritus

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    I know they like to (need to?) re-use models, but let's figure out if they could have replaced Ryloth and Toydaria with other planets without affecting the plot whatsoever.

    Also like to point out to fanboy that Drew Z. Greenburg is the supervising writer.

    The writer is Stephen Melching, who wrote Ambush. Probably taking an old idea from a two-parter Melching had pitched, and they changed it to include Ryloth I'd bet.



    EDIT: If Toydaria gives the Republic aid prior to the events of Ambush, why would Dooku/Ventress attempt a treaty and not simply invade as retribution for a neutral planet assisting a Republic planet? [face_thinking]
  11. Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod

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    BTW, was I the only one yelling back at my TV during the Supply Lines preview trailer?

    On an all new episode of Star Wars, the Clone Wars!
    Remember Ryloth?


    "Yes."

    Remember Ryloth?

    "Yes, you idiot!"

    Well, it looks kinda like this.

    "No it doesn't!!"

    Yeah, that.

    "NO! It's a tidal lock planet, with one half in perpetual freezing darkness and the other in perpetual blazing sunlight! Only the twilight zone is barely habitable in underground caverns!"

    And the only one who can save it, iiiiis Jar Jar.
    "HallOOooo"


    [face_plain]:oops: CLICK



    My point exactly. Unless they are very clever about it, there's no way to properly fit this either before or after Ambush.
  12. fistofan1 Jedi Master

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    Maybe Yoda and Katuunko's deal only involved building a base on Toydaria, and not sompletely joining the republic.
  13. Garth Maul Manager Emeritus

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    Yeah, I double-checked that and it doesn't appear that way from the Ambush episode guide.
  14. fistofan1 Jedi Master

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    Well, I'm sure it'll work out. TCW is known for their perfect continui... oh, wait...[face_worried]
  15. Darth_Zandalor Jedi Master

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    Anyone else find it hilarious that one of the best episodes from the show is when Padme was actually doing her job?

    Ughh, well, I'll try to remain optimistic that Jar Jar and Hermes at least have a somewhat important role.
  16. Koonster Jedi Youngling

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    I don't actually know what to think about this episode. I love the fact that Toydarians and Neimoidians are back, and the whole Ryloth battle, but I fear Jar Jar will be over done :oops:
  17. Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod

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    Yeah, the whole thing was about Toydaria joining either the republic or the Separatists, cause they couldn't safely remain neutral anymore. In the end Katuunka says: "You have my faith. Toydaria will be honoured to host a Republic base. My people are at your service." That is a pledge of allegiance, and if after that oath he doesn't send aid to Republic forces on Ryloth, then he has no honour at all.
  18. Garth Maul Manager Emeritus

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    The only thing that might be awesome is Lott Dod.

    He's not Gunray-level cool, but should still be fun.

    Remember guys, the Neimoidians aren't necessarily Separatists at this point. ;)[face_beatup]
  19. Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod

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    Gahhh....

    I don't know about Dodd. That image of him raising his fists towards Bail in the trailer didn't really inspire much confidence about his role in this episode.

    If this episode actually follows the political cluster**** of Senate Spy, we could be facing a "perfect storm scenario".
    - The neimoidians aren't separatists
    - Jar Jar antics
    - Ryloth isn't tidal locked
    - Neutral Toydaria sends aid to the Republic, while still remaining neutral
    - I'm-a Gonna Die, you all know it, but we'll try to keep the suspense up anyway
  20. Ludo_Kressh Jedi Knight

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    Yeah, I fear this as well...but wouldn't it be shocking if he actually did his job without engaging in his usual clumsy antics?
  21. Garth Maul Manager Emeritus

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    I'm going to go ahead and pre-emptively declare this Worst Episode Ever.

    <img src="http://thefulcrum.blogspot.com/Bush-Mission-Accomplished.jpg">
  22. Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod

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    Have you seen the trailer? I wouldn't count on it.
  23. Ludo_Kressh Jedi Knight

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    Actually, I haven't...and judging by your post I can assume I won't be shocked.:p
  24. JediMaster1511 Jedi Grand Master

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    Even the narrator sounded so un-enthusiastic when he said the only hope was Jar-Jar.
  25. Koonster Jedi Youngling

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    Nice one, Garth [face_laugh]
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