Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by Gry Sarth, Sep 22, 2010.
Wouldn't it be sort of brilliant if Ima-Gun didn't actually die? Talk about a reverse-twist ending.
Reminds me of the Sunny in Philadelphia episode where Dee gets cast as an extra in M. Night Shyamalan's new movie, and Charlie and Mac write their own script.
TWIST! Imagun Di doesn't really die! TWIST! Jar-Jar actually is Force sensitive!
TWIST! Bail Organa actually is Jamaican!
Yes it takes place before Ambush
Familiar faces from the live-action Saga and previous seasons of The Clone Wars join forces in the third season of The Clone Wars. In addition to exploring new battlefronts and frontiers, the series reveals insights and revelations about some of the stories we've seen so far.This week, "Supply Lines" takes the narrative back before the series' season one debut. It's an all-new facet to a fan-favorite storyline airing at 9:00 p.m. ET/PT Friday, September 24 on Cartoon Network.
Ryloth is under siege. Trapped on the surface, Jedi Master Di rallies the local forces with the help of rebel leader Cham Syndulla. Desperate to save them, Senator Bail Organa and Representative Jar Jar Binks are dispatched to the planet of Toydaria, where they must convince the King Katuunko to send aid to Ryloth -- before it's too late.
"This is one of the fun aspects of being this deep into the series," says Dave Filoni, supervising director of Star Wars: The Clone Wars. "Now that we have two seasons already under our belt, we can go back and look at some different aspects of key moments from the Clone Wars; we can jump around in the timeline. We can explore different aspects and different stories. We have a neat opportunity to blow out stories that we've seen already, and look at them from a different perspective, a different point of view -- and that's been an important aspect of Star Wars since the original trilogy."
Taking place before Yoda's fateful meeting with King Katuunko on the moon of Rugosa -- chronicled in the series premiere episode, "Ambush" -- "Supply Lines" also explores the origins of the Ryloth occupation and the subjugation of the Twi'lek people occupation, explored in a three-episode arc in the first season.
"This conflict is vast, to say the least," says Filoni. "It's a big galaxy, and there's a lot going on at all times. Even two seasons in, we're only seeing a fraction of the war -- key moments that are really focused on the primary heroes from the films. But those moments are framed by heroism and villainy, too, just as there are important events happening concurrently with the key scenes we've explored. We've got 22 minutes per episode and 22 episodes per season, and we're still only scratching the surface of the Clone Wars."
Serving to support existing stories and to build on the overall mythology of Star Wars: The Clone Wars, "Supply Lines" promises its own action and surprises. Featuring the return of some fan-favorite characters (and perhaps a certain starship) from the live-action films, the episode also introduces some brand new characters.
"We're going to meet Jedi Master Di," says Filoni. "I like him a lot; he's cool and I'd like to be able to do more with him. But you should remember that this is a prequel, and that it takes place before the episodes we've seen already. There may be a reason we haven't seen him after the events of this episode. Here's a hint: Star Wars characters have a history of suggestive names. Greedo was a greedy bounty hunter. Lobot's a guy with a computer implanted in his brain, like a lobotomy. General Grievous and Darth Maul are both intent on causing pain and suffering. Han Solo's a loner. So I'm just saying that maybe Jedi Master Di should watch his back."
Let's see what we're working with here:
- Jar Jar
-Confusing continuity jumping
-Disregard for lines in Liberty on Ryloth
-Disregard for the webcomic
For perhaps the first time, I really don't want Friday to come.
So what happened to them saying they were NOT going to jump around much anymore?
And I'm putting money down on the OT era ship being the Falcon.
More likely the Tantive IV - though technically it wouldn't be the Tantive IV, due to a Leland Chee-approved retcon.
"Jedi Council dispatches Senator Bail Organa and Representative Jar Jar Binks to the planet Toydaria, where they are to convince the neutral regent, King Katuunko, to send aide to Ryloth."
No one with any brains would send Jar Jar to a diplomatic meeting where the lives of the inhabitants of an entire planet was at stake. That plot point requires way more suspension of disbelief than I could ever muster. Horrible writing, just horrible.
I for one am really looking forward to this episode. Ambush is tied with Rookies as my favorite episode, and so I am really excited. My guess is Katuunko doesn't send aid, so Imagun Di is going to be killed, angered the Republic couldn't get Katuunko to aid them, Cham Syndulla decides he doesn't like the Republic.
Care to explain these two?
The ship could be the Tantive IV if Bail Organa's involved. Also, in the trailer you see Jar Jar waving and there's someone behind him with a white helmet like the rebels have in ANH. Could they be on Alderaan to start off with?
In this episode they try and convince the Toydarians to send aid to Ryloth, yet they don't want to because they want to stay neutral. Even if they do send aid, Dooku may still try and negotiate with Toydaria as he does in Ambush rather than seek retaliation. He may want to convince Katuunko that the Republic is the wrong side to be on, and thus he can 'help' many more planets by siding with the 'good guys' in the Separatists. Then when they win the war everyone wil be better off.
My guess is Katuunko doesn't send aid, so Imagun Di is going to be killed, angered the Republic couldn't get Katuunko to aid them, Cham Syndulla decides he doesn't like the Republic.
Or the Republic forces could have already been on Ryloth and they're wiped out by the droid attack leaving the Twi'leks with no help. Then the Republic does not send more aid so maybe that is why Bail is going to Toydaria. That mission may or may not work but Syndulla is then distrustful of the Republic.
No one with any brains would send Jar Jar to a diplomatic meeting where the lives of the inhabitants of an entire planet was at stake.
Palpatine might though....
I'm still not looking forward to this episode. Not because of the random pairing of Jar Jar and Bail, or them going to Toydaria to help Ryloth, or "Ima Gun Di".
It's just...something odd that might occur in the episode.
In LoR, Syndulla said the Republic never sent help.
In the webcomic, the droids attack Ryloth with no opposition from the Jedi or Syndulla.
So...the Republic wants the Toydarians to send aid to Ryloth. Then this episode happens. Ryloth falls, and per Ambush the Toydarians do not ally with the Republic until later.
Every aspect of this story has Separatist victory written all over it, courtesy, I'm sure, of Jar Jar Binks. That may reedeem it somewhat.
We don't know if aid reaches Ryloth in the episode - in fact, now that it has been confirmed as a prequel to Ambush, it's more than likely that it doesn't.
Also, doesn't dialogue in the LoR imply that Syndulla did resist the occupation at first? All those references to the revolutionaries being massacred, etc.
Wow, that article really puts a nail in the coffin. So it's before Ambush, well, I think as long as Katuunko doesn't send aid, that's fine (though I find that unlikley). And it's before the Ryloth Trilogy. Say what? Cham is working alongside the Republic, who later on he claims never to have helped and which he didn't want anything to do with?
And that last paragraph... ok, "I'm going to die" WE GET IT! This is beyond stupid already, unless it's really some absurd misdirection and he doesn't actually die.
Exactly. I think you are searching too much for reasons to not like the episode, fistofan1.
My thoughts exactly.
Exactly. There are much better reasons not to like the episode.
Like Filoni saying over and over that Di is going to die. But really, the hype for this episode is below zero around here. I'm still positive about the episode.
Indeed, and they are not hard to find.
I don't think I've anticipated an episode so little in a long-o-time.
I'm usually a Positive Patrolian around here, so the fact that I'm a Negative Neimoidian really says something.
I think they're kriffed if they do and kriffed if they don't concerning Master Di. If he dies, everyone will be upset about being spoiled. If he lives, we'll be disappointed that yet another Jedi didn't die.
He will die. The problem is that it was spoiled. Bad move from Filoni...
If he dies we'll be pissed at Filoni for spoiling it. If he doesn't we'll be pissed at Filoni for lying to us.
I thought we were pissed ever since that video on CN...
I'm pretty much only looking forward to this one for Lott Dod. Nice to see him back again so soon! I'll be amazed if he doesn't end up captured at the end of the episode though...