Full Series The Clone Wars: Episode 407: Darkness On Umbara Discussion Thread

That was his complaint.

 

No he was incorrectly calling him CT.

 

I thought it was a way to show that he doesn't care about his rank and name.

 

That was what I came up with after briefly glimpsing that on the Wook. Rex looked like he was trying to correct him, but kept being interrupted, at least from what I remember.

 

Garth, I could punch you for bringing up the whole CT thing again, after it had finally died down....

Next thing you'll wonder whether Fives is a cardboard character or not.

 

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Damn frozen internets

 

Exactly. In his view he was just a trooper. It was on purpose. It's ashame though, because a TRIVIA SECTION or a COMMENTARY could have cleared this up for us! Oh well..

 

Settle down, people.

I was asking a question, I said I didn't have time to read through all 15 pages. I can see why someone like GG, who is a purist, would get irritated. It's just another one of those examples where we have to try to find an in-universe answer.

Glad there was enough discussion to get to 16 pages.

 

One thing I don't think was brought up in the thread, maybe someone can help me out: why were the Umbarans required to wear gas masks on their own planet?

Wouldn't the clones be more likely to have trouble with the atmosphere?


EDIT: Also just have to point out, for all the negativity LACWAC has shown towards the first 6 episodes of Season 4, it's been pretty unanimous praise for this episode. When they actually deliver on their hype and potential, we're not slow to praise them.

 

I'd rather people didn't make such a big thing of all us nay-sayers suddenly writing positive reviews.

 

Yes, for everybody who's always so quick to ask "why do you keep watching the show?" whenever someone complains about the state of the series.... THIS is why.

 

It has been discussed a fair bit. I don't think there is any kind of consensus, but in my opinion the most plausible explanation is that they don't, and their helmets are just filled with something else, like emotion suppressing drugs or perhpas just some glowing stuff for illumination.

 

It's some kind of mind control drug, basically the Umbaran equivalent of Rish Loo's necklace.

 

When Umbaran's mask is broken he babbles something but probably asks for mercy but he didn't seem to suffocate... supporting other theories of mask's purpose that also make more sense. Most confusing thing is that Sly and Deechi had no problem with oxygen-atmosphere on Coruscant

 

I was more thinking about the Battle of Mogadishu. Pretty much the only reason the local militia fought so hard against the Americans despite lopsided casualties (18 Americans vs 2,000 or so militia) was because they were on drugs that made them very aggressive and less able to feel pain and fear.

 

I kinda thought the Umbaran was cussing out the clone, but whatever works for ya.

 

I thought that Umbaran was completely freaking out and in pain. He was acting like acid had been thrown on his face when Fives broke his helmet.

 

Yup, my thoughts exactly. "you jerk, I'm choking to death"

 

There is a more high-tech version of the same thing in the pilot of Star Trek: The Next Generation where there are troops from what is Earth's future to us but its past on Star Trek whose armor was set up to regularly inject them with drugs for basically the same purpose.

 

Kix did have a moment where he told Rex that the men were tired. Atleast he stayed a medic, this made me happy. Although it seems weird to have a medic on board when every weapon seems to have an instakill effect on people.


On the issue of the gas, that confused me too. I hope that gets explained in future episodes.

 

This episode was by far the best in terms of combat scenes, and animation. CGI has come very far with this Star Wars series, and I've always loved how George is able to challenge, and push technology foward. I'd also like to compliment Dee Bradley Baker on his superb acting skills I've been a fan of him since I was a kid.

 

I think Baker should write a manual-style book on the clones after this, or at least an article for the OS. He puts so much effort into distinguishing the voices of each one that he must spend more time than anyone else getting inside their heads. It would be neat if he did some sort of guide covering each one (or rather, the most important ones -- by the time he's done with this show, I'm sure we'll have seen several dozen clones).

 

You mean in addition to the video he did?

 

I know, I'm really glad they kept him a Medic. Its the only thing that really separates him from other clones right now. I hope he, Jesse and Hardcase live through this arc. If one of them does die, then I hope the other two are more affected by the death then the rest of the battalion, to reflect their past together.


Still, does anyone else wonder why Hardcase is so drastically different from the last time we saw him?