Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by Seerow, Sep 24, 2012.
You don't say.
If Grievous is a Blackberry, then Darth Maul must be a Nokia.
I dunno, this thing is really elegant, powerful, and user friendly.
Particularly compared to the single biggest piece of electronic junk that has even been manufactured.
in terms of durability. Grievous keeps getting torn to shreds in every appearance, while Maul can survive a goddamn reactor and bisections.
I'll still go with the Nokia comparison for Maul I guess. Nokia makes pretty phones but they are still way out gunned and nobody wants WP7. As for Grievous I think he's more of a Palm.
Off-topic posts need to be removed
Where's a mod when you need one
Don't you work for AT&T? I see what you're doing here....
Savage is a Go-Phone then.
There's an AT&T/AT-AT joke somewhere...
I think you could say Grievous' durability is almost at Maul levels. He survived a ship crash or whatever, and now is half a brain and some guts, IIRC. So he's lost however many limbs during the Clone Wars and yet has survived. We're supposed to buy into Grievous' ability because as a Kaleesh (?) warrior he was pretty badass, and now he has 4 arms and computer reflexes.
I'm not sure Grievous is actually using the Forms of lightsaber combat, or if he is, they've been programmed into him.
in LOE (I think), Dooku tells Grievous his best weapons are fear and surprise - if the Jedi get over the "shock and awe" factor, it may be more of a test for Grievous than he realized.Dooku even doubts how he would do if he faced Kenobi in a duel...guess Dooku didn't watch TCW.
And my interpretation of the ROTS duel with Kenobi is that he stays calm and the Force is with him, and that's how he is able to defeat Grievous.
I was okay with Grievous, but TCW has irritated me a bit in how many people (Pre Viszla, Cassie Cryar(?), etc.) have picked up a lightsaber and not chopped their own limbs off.
I agree with Garth. TCW Grievous isn't to bright, he's a coward, and he can get beat up by Gungans. But his body is still pretty durable.
I'm just a gadget geek.
Surprising how this got turned into a Grievous thread and the old GG thread came back to life. Should tell Filoni and GL something.
Ep. III has Grievous being killed by Obi-Wan in a one-on-one setting with a blaster. It's inconsistent to have that death for the character but then in the EU for him to be able to defeat multiple Jedi Masters at once. Canon is not a trump card with me, if the canon makes no sense, I do not accept it.
Fixed. I asked for an explanation of how that canon could possibly make sense, not a reiteration of the fact that it exists.
Jedi can be killed with blasters so that argument is invalidated
Of course. But what about the likes of Mace? Not likely that he'd go down if ONE person aimed a blaster at his stomach and fired..
I noticed that people were talking about how Adi is alive in the next episode, well the next episode production number is :415 which means it was made just after Revenge, while Revival (which was originally supposed to air later in the season) was production number: 426. So Adi had not been written out of The Clone Wars yet.
Except in all of their confrontations Grievous has been beaten by Mace
Tarkas you also ignore just because someone is a Jedi Master doesn't mean your automatically at Maces level. Case in point Coleman Trebor
I think everyone already knows this.
Or if you want an example from TCW, Ima-Gun-Di.
Oh and how could I forget Maul getting owned by Pirates
Great examples of how the non-forceusers can best a Jedi or Sith.
I didn't see Grievous defeating Adi in Obsession through overwhelming force of numbers. It was a one-on-one situation, he says he's been trained to kill Jedi, then he kills her. To me it's insufficient to say a normal cyborg of course could not defeat a Jedi, but if they're trained to, then it's no problem. And that's the only explanation given there. It's like saying the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force, unless that ability is specifically designed to also destroy the Force. Easy to say the words, but it makes no damn sense.
Of course not all Jedi Masters are of equal power, but all members of the Jedi Council are generally the most powerful Jedi. That counts for something.
Trebor was on the Jedi Council, look where it got him against Fett one on one
The guy that gets shot at the beginning of the battle of Geonosis in Ep. II? I always thought that death was REALLY stupid. If he was on the Jedi Council, wow, I did not think I could think that moment as any dumber, but you've gotten me there. One more reason TCW > AOTC.
I don't see how it was "dumb". Trebor focused on Dooku, not on Jango and diverted his attention too late.