The Clone Wars - Kevin Kiner

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  1. DarthBoba Manager Emeritus

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    lol.

    Yeah, I just don't get very much out of it. It doesn't evoke very much for me, which the rest of SW music does.

    That being said, I can't remember very much out of the CW soundtrack either, although I haven't gotten the soundtrack by itself just yet.
  2. WedgeWalker Jedi Knight

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    In the Clone Wars preview special that aired on Cartoon Network the other day, a few little clips of scenes with Yoda were shown. In one of them, Yoda's theme (and a new arrangement of it at that) was clearly heard.

    That's encouraging.
  3. ChimealHeltei Jedi Grand Master

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    So, we now got the first ever full mention of Yoda's Theme in the first episode since RotJ. So please don't say anything more about Kiner not having studied JW's scores...

    Besides we have the alternative Grievous Theme (from Clone Wars animated series) in the second episode.
  4. Kwenn Force Ghost

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    Excellent use of Yoda's Theme -- and a new version as well. Always great to hear, and I'm glad Kliner chose the right moments, rather than simply have the theme follow Yoda through the entire episode. The score for the first two episodes appears, on a casual first listen, to be more subtle than the film; the Force Theme rises out of the mix at several points in the second episode, as well as a nice finale version. I was hoping for the scene with Dooku reporting back to Sidious, if only to find out whether Kliner is going to use the Emperor's Theme.
  5. TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod

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    I loved that rendition towards the end. That was like "General Yoda's theme". It almost sounded... marchy... or at least fanfary... ish... sort of :p You know what I mean


    and there's a neat bit of original music, too, when the Secret Weapon Ship approaches the Twilight in the second episode.
  6. TCW_Fan Jedi Padawan

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    Really?! Where?
  7. ChimealHeltei Jedi Grand Master

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    Just what TwiLekJedi said: when the Malevolence approaches the Twiliht in the second episode. It's more a Grievous motif than a theme though... It's from the Clone Wars animated episode, when Grievous fights the Jedi.
  8. TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod

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    is that what it is? Didn't make the connection. 2D sounded much... simpler.
  9. ChimealHeltei Jedi Grand Master

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    It's not really the same notes, but it's reminiscent of the motif in the 2D episode IMHO.
  10. TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod

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    everything always sounds like everything else to you [face_talk_hand]
    except, of course, when I say there is E.T. in Indy4[face_not_talking]
  11. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Grand Master

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    E.T.?

    I heard Hook, Jurassic Park, ESB's Battle of Hoth, Superman, and a tinge of CE3K, but where do you hear E.T.? Is it on the soundtrack?
  12. TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod

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    ... you're not helping

    wait, Battle of Hoth?
  13. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Grand Master

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    Track 08 on the KotCS OST starting at about 1:39, compare to Track 05 on ESB Special Edition Disc 1 at about 05:05.

    It's not full-on Hornereqsue plagiarism by any means, but still very similar to my ears.
  14. Glymphid_Warlord Jedi Grand Master

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    Saw Shadow of Malevolence last night, and I must say, Kiner's writing there is at times more in line with that of Star Trek, rather than Star Wars. But it still fits, so all is good. :)
  15. WedgeWalker Jedi Knight

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    The one motif definitely had a Wrath of Khan vibe...and given that there's a scene in a nebula in both...
  16. Glymphid_Warlord Jedi Grand Master

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    Yeah, Wrath of Khan is what I thought of when I heard it. And it is interesting that both have a nebula... [face_thinking]
  17. rodan70 Jedi Master

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    It sounds better on the TV show than it did on a Full- Length Movie.
  18. Glymphid_Warlord Jedi Grand Master

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    Gotta agree with you, there. [face_laugh]
  19. DarthBoba Manager Emeritus

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    Just watched Episode 6. The opening battle music was the battle music from Bram Stoker's Dracula, played a little differently.

  20. Kwenn Force Ghost

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    I imagine the techno/electronica pieces in the latest episode aren't going to win many fans, though I didn't mind them. At least they were in keeping with the droid vibe--just so long as they're not overused in later episodes. One thing I'm not keen on is the tendancy to end episodes with The Force Theme, regardless of whether it's strictly needed or not; and especially since there's a conspicuous lack of it--or any other themes--in the rest of the episode. There are certainly several 'hero' moments that need an appropriate rendition; I would have liked to hear that Main Theme sting used for Artoo's defeat of the buzz droid in RotS used during his attempted escape from the droid hauler.
  21. DarthBoba Manager Emeritus

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    I'm...not too sure on the techno/electronica pieces. I do think that they can make excellent action-scene pieces for extremely high-violence or high-intensity action sequences, but so far, The Clone Wars hasn't, and probably won't, had an action scene to equal, say, 300.

  22. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Grand Master

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    That was the Rebel Fanfare, actually.:-B[face_peace]
  23. WedgeWalker Jedi Knight

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    Just wanted to say, so far I've thought the music has been great.

    Yes, the techno in Downfall of a Droid was really close to the line for my tastes. (Didn't mind it at all in Duel of the Droids.)

    And yes, I'd like to hear a little more incorporation of classic existing themes.


    But that being said, some wonderful work Kiner and his crew are doing.
  24. Glymphid_Warlord Jedi Grand Master

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    Gotta love them bagpipes from last night's episode! [face_dancing]
  25. Kwenn Force Ghost

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    Was Jar Jar's Theme in there at all? I certainly didn't notice it.
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