Arena 2023-24 NCAA Football Discussion

Washington impressive tonight. John Ross, wow. This performance looks to me like enough to get them in.

And, I echo those congrats to the Brincos, rowing their boat to the Cotton Bowl.

 

I've read we shouldn't hold the current coaching staff and players accountable for Penn State's actions. Yes and no. No, they didn't have anything to do with it, but they still agreed to work or play for the school, knowing full well Penn State's complicity in Paterno's covering up of Sandusky's actions. So, I hope Wisconsin wipes them off the field. If Penn State, I hope Ohio State gets in over them.

 

Any thoughts on if Washington can jump Clemson for the 3 spot? Their resumes are pretty similar and if Clemson struggles against VTech would UW's performance last night be good enough to give them the nod? Though that would set up a potential rematch of Alabama-Clemson, which I'm not sure the committee would view as a positive or as a negative.

 

There's virtually no chance the Committee will pit Pac-12 vs. Big-10 in Round 1 after last year's Rose Bowl, even if no one expects it to go that way again...

 

"Sadler or Foltz?"

That was kind of weird, Big Ten.

 

I'm thinking Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Washington

In that order

 

I am not Yankee, this is not the soccer thread. Smh

 

Two losses, versus one loss. Plus Penn State got crushed by Michigan, while Ohio State won.

I normally would agree with you despite that, but given this is Penn State we're talking about and all that's happened, they can get left out in the cold for all I care.

 

That's true. They're using the Agent K method from Men in Black II: "I like to keep my enemies confused." J: "We're all confused, K."

 

No matter which teams make it, there will be controversy regarding whoever gets left out.

 

Ohio State has three wins over Power Five schools with ten or more wins. For comparison, Clemson and Alabama combined to play zero. The committee had been consistent on one point through its three years: it cares the most about who you beat. No one compared to Ohio State in that category this year.

Yeah, it's a shame that Penn State had both the Conference Title and Head-to-Head over Ohio State. They also lost their marquee out of conference game.

 

It looks like the Gators will be playing Iowa in the Outback Bowl.

FSU vs Michigan in the Orange Bowl (Go Michigan!)
Ohio State vs Clemson in the Fiesta Bowl semi-final (Go Buckeyes!)
Alabama vs Washington in the Peach Bowl semi-final (Go Alabama, only less enthusiastically)

 

Michigan, to me, was out, because they lost 50% of their road games, and 2 of 3 down the stretch. You can't go .500 on the road and call yourself one of the four best teams in the country. I suspect the committee thought the same thing.

Penn State vs. Washington is a harder call. Both are conference champions. Penn State's best win is over Ohio State, their second best over Wisconsin. Washington's best win is over Colorado (comparable win to Wisconsin), second best win is over Utah. So, edge to Penn State there. But, Penn State lost to Pitt, a team that finished Fourth in the ACC Coastal Division, and got completed routed by Michigan. Washington lost to USC. The committee doesn't always care about who you lose to, but I think in this case, it came down to that.

I do want to note that I think Oklahoma got jobbed in all of this, with Washington getting in. If they schedule Rutgers (like Washington did) instead of Ohio State and finish the year 11-1 on an 11-game winning streak, they are in the playoffs. Even if they schedule Sam Houston instead of Houston and finish 11-1, they are probably in over Washington. Yes, they lost to both Houston and Ohio State. But, they'd have been rewarded - like Washington was - if they hadn't scheduled them both. I'm not advocating for Oklahoma to be in, mind you. Just wary of the message it sends.

 

Well, obviously if you are Washington, then continue to have the easiest schedule because the risk of a tougher schedule is not making the BCS.

 

Alabama will win.

 

I'm in as "Inty Aint Come to Pick Classes"