well, given that it doesn't really apply in this particular battle, given neither of them really use tech much, i don't see that it really matters too much ATM. i'll see what i can find for future reference though. on the steel thing, guess i misread it or something. like i've said before (or think i have), if anything i say is blatantly wrong, or obviously stupid, just ignore it. or explain why it's wrong so i won't say it again. that always works too. could you, per chance, tell me some of the other stuff i was assuming about? would be useful for trying to find something to back it up later.