Amph The Comic Book Character Draft ReduX [Ed: That's #10 for those keeping score]

But Ganthet did take on 50 lanterns, that has to be worth something. Plus, peak Ganthet is essentially him with a green lantern ring, I'd guess blackest night...

Also, Ganthet still has powers without the ring, which have been shown.

 

True, he is a verifiable beast. How many lanterns do you think the trump of Superman, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, & Power Girl could take out though? Or Superman, Flash, Martian Manhunter and Hal Jordan?

Despero takes them with ease routinely, I would be willing to bet those trumps could take out a huge number of nameless lanterns as well.

 

A few fallacies in your argument:

First, I did show Ganthet curing John and Guy of Mind control from Parallax. That was Ganthet unhurt, and 2 on 1. The War scans I post are him taking on the ENTIRE corps (save Hal, John, Guy, Kyle and Mogo) and trying his hardest NOT to kill them. At no point is he worried for himself. He also mentions, and this is the key, that he is holding off the corps with RESIDUAL Guardian power. Not full power. What you're seeing is Ganthet nearly on Empty. So what does he look like at Peak? Well Kyle states matter of factly that Ganthet could crack the planet in half with a mere thought.

Physically: Ganthet took out Cyborg Superman on the second fight. The first fight, Hank drained the ring using an alpha lantern's battery and then he took hostages (the other Alpha lanterns) so Ganthet was forced to work for him. First chance Ganthet gets, he obliterates Hank. Second example: The Weaponer of Qwaard with prep time. Hits him with a net. These are not objects Despero has. Despero is not prepared. And unless you show me Despero fighting Guardians, I'm not sure where you think he can defeat Ganthet. A full 'death star' level blast from Mogo simply brings Ganthet to his knees instead of killing him. As far as what kills a Guardian: Nekkron slit the throat of one that was essentially powerless, Hal killed Krona which should not have been possible according to the Guardians, and one committed suicide in an effort to stop Superboy Prime. I realize Despero is physically strong. But against Ganthet at his peak, swatted like a fly. Remember that when Hal kills the Guardians, they transfer all their powers to Ganthet. I've looked through all of Kyle's run straight through Hal's rebirth. Ganthet NEVER gives that power back. He's the most powerful Guardian without any doubt. His knowledge is vast. When Martian Manhunter went nuts, Ganthet rescued John Stewart and essentially taught him a mental way to stop J'onn. Still looking for those scans, but the more important point is the ring plus the knowledge he already had without a ring.

Ganthet peak is Ganthet with his Guardian powers + Green Lantern ring. Blackest night exactly. Where he deputizes himself and the others and states basically that they'll hold off Nekkron and the black lanterns until the cavalry arrives.

As to the battery. The power battery was destroyed by Hal in Emerald Twilight.

 

Ok... I'm not going to say he just swats Despero either, I think both of you are taking this to extremes. I'm just saying Marvel is useful here as a distraction, and Ganthet is better than most people give him credit for.

 

Aside from when they were infected by the deadly sins, do you have any other direct scans of Marvel getting controlled strictly by Despero? As I mentioned, some of the SHAZAM powers give him mental resistance. I'm not saying Despero couldn't take over Marvel's mind given time and no distractions, but I'm not necessarily sure I see him doing it and succeeding without Marvel putting up a fight. Especially since we see him taking on Marvel physically, not mentally, in some of those scans. And I'll agree that physically Marvel is ultimately outclassed, I think Ganthet's covers the shortcomings of the trump nicely. Marvel can do some punching and distraction while Ganthet finishes.

 

Who's ready for a Plo Koon standalone film?

 

Are they coming out with one?

Captain Marvel has never been someone who is highly resistant to mind control, guess I don't have time to find scans but didn't realize we were trying to pass off Marvel is a bastion of mental fortitude here.

Wasn't arguing any longer that mind control was even an issue. Physically Captain Marvel isn't a threat, sorry but that is it is what it is.

If Despero can make short work of Superman, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman and Power Girl in 5 panels and having sustained no visible damage at all than I don't think Marvel is much of a distraction.

 

does plo koon get to talk in the plo koon movie?

 

So Heels, as a judge are you considering Despero as having the Flame of Py'tar powers or not? I have been holding off showing any of those feats because I am unsure what the judges are thinking on that.

 

You mean Maxle and Wang?

I can post more tomorrow on his peak stuff then, he kept that power up for a good while and has a lot of great feats there. The respect thread on him actually has more feats from that period as it does from the stuff that came after.

 

Despero has always had the Pytar powers in these drafts. In comic continuity he's probably had them longer than he hasn't. You don't even think of Despero without it really.

The only thing is I think he had like pyromancy or reality altering or something that he only used in 1 arc and never again, but all his strength, TP/TK, durability, etc. he's always been judged as having.

 

No. It'll be an old school, silent film feature.

 

No he clearly meant me as I am awesome. And speaking of awesome a Plo-Koon movie would be great he was my favorite jedi, always chose him in Jedi Power Battles.

 

Creates a dragon out of a skyscrapper.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/246/497738362ck.jpg/?sa=0

Creates a castle out of nothing.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/266/748458132oo.jpg/?sa=0

Transforms Gotham, eventually this transformation would ripple out and change the entire world.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/807991589fw.jpg/?sa=0

Can manipulate fire.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/934138134lh.jpg/?sa=0
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/846285055vk.jpg/?sa=0

Creates an elephant out of fire.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/406/880416007uj.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/406/650295164ob.jpg/?sa=0

Brings the JLA satellite crashing down to earth, you can see he is dragging it down behind him and on impact he was the first thing to hit. No damage to him at all.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/242/544751998ee.jpg/?sa=0
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/396/734511896et.jpg/?sa=0

Through his third eye can teleport things over billions of miles.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/144/295636527xz.jpg/?sa=0

Here is some telepathy stuff. You know how powerful Martian Manhuter is right? Well Despero makes his head explode, literally.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/215569871rr.jpg/?sa=0

Physically nothing has really beaten him, the only time it seemed to happen was when Starro the Conqueror decapitated him....but that didn't kill him at all and it turned out it was a ploy by Despero to make others think he was dead.

 

When were those published?

 

Batman was saved because of his training, coordination, and concentration... wow this is some lame writing.

 

what, you mean comics from that time period weren't bastions of creativity and writing? you must be delusional...

 

Anyway just a guess but that seems precrisis which I know doesn't count. I second ef, I need some dates on those.

 

Dates! Issue numbers! Writer and artist names!

 

Slapped him so hard he killed him

 

Looks like that arc ran in 1986, ending in September.
http://pytar.blogspot.com/2008/05/justice-league-of-america-254-986.html

The Crisis event (and the pre-crisis/post crisis split) ran from August 1985 to March of 1986.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths

So that run with Despero ended a good 6 months after the last of the Crisis titles were released.

Seems like it is technically post crisis, up to you and the judges though. Crisis did start first and end first, the Despero arc started after Crisis did and clearly ended after it.