Amph The Comic Book Draft: Ten Year Stanniversary

Here's the thing about John Stewart. He's a military man. He's an expert sniper and he's had to make the hard calls (killing entire planets, blowing up Mogo). I think Guy is very skilled as well and I do think he's very good with the red ring, but I think John is more disciplined and more willing to make a hard call much faster whereas Guy will naturally be guided by emotion. But in the end, I think John's Will will be stronger than Guy's rage.

John Stewart

Also, since it won't matter, I'm voting Magneto.

Agreed on the other two.

 

I don't see Stewart taking down a Corps leader on his own, no matter his feats, but whatever.

 

He'd take down Sinestro, go 50/50 vs Hal I'd say, would beat Carol as well. I dunno much about the other Corps leaders. Atrocitus did seem to be the strongest outside of Larfleeze. Gardner beating him seems ridiculous, I'd like to read that issue.

 

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The Tick *I forgot his home field vs Eradicator (New Earth) + Professor Charles Xavier (Earth-616)
Captain Atom (DCNU) fortress of sorlitord vs Martian Manhunter (J'onn J'onzz; DC New Earth)
Nova (Home field: Nova Headquarters) vs X-Man
Thragg (Image) / Korugar City (DC, New Earth) vs Victor Von Doom *prepared*


Boy, that is some pull for Thragg...

 

lol. one of the fights X could take on his own.

 

So doom finds out about Scourge Virus, Plant Caxus and makes replicas of the two things and kills thragg with them....if not, he uses his knowledge to defeat thragg with magic or something else
Doom has taken down cosmic beings before (i.e. Galactus (sercet wars) and silver surfer(fantastic 4 movie) and other teams of heros and such....thragg would be no different

 

Okay, this is a tough draw. But not because Doom should win this fight. It's tough because Doom prepared is treated much like Batman and Iron Man and Strange prepared. For some reason, people think they can just DO things with 24 hours of prep. Well, you know what he can't do? Synthesize things from the Image verse that need more time than that. Also, where is he going to get Thaedus' cells, otherwise known as they only remaining source of the Scourge Virus?

Sure he has magic, and shields,and tech, and blah blah blah. But I don't see anything Doom does stopping a being that is more likely to punch a hole through his chest at faster than light speeds than sit and proselytize a change in character. This isn't a hero, it's a ruthless, lightspeed moving, planet busting, psychopathic dictator with the tactical mind of Sun Tzu and the quick thinking of a speedster. The man fights people who move faster than light WHILE IN COMBAT.

There might be a trap or something, but unless it can withstand the force of something that can burst through planets, then it ain't holding him for long. This is a good fight, but the onus is on the prep to show and tell just what Doom is going to do with that 24 hours. Then I can respond to it. But it won't be Plant Caxus or the Scourge Virus. I can tell you that.

 

he beat Galactus with 24 hours prep and his armor is stronger than kang's (which can withstand a point-blank thor hammer to the face and still fight like nothing happened) and he is arguably the smartest guy in the marvel universe and he has an entire country's resources he could use (which is more resources than lex or stark) and the intelect of reed richards and the same ruthlessness that Scourge has with all the added knowledge and magic and other stuff that prep gives Doom...Scourge is powerful (maybe more powerful than superman) but all of Doom's stuff is just a little better

 

He beat Galactus by siphoning the very power cosmic that fuels and creates him. Sure, it's a wonderful feat for tech against energy beings. But Thragg has no "power cosmic" that powers or sustains him. Doom can't just power himself while making Thragg weaker. Thragg doesn't work that way.

 

Remember that thing about a certain frequency at a certain resonance being deadly to a certain species?

 

I also remember that only a certain genius who studied one of his best friends for years being able to discover that frequency. I doubt there is going to be a Viltrumite anatomy textbook in the prep box.

 

Well, there's got to be something in there.

 

Yeah, but we've usually kept it to established facts that are well known. The basic rundown of an enemy. Robot has kept that weakness close to the chest so that he has power over the Viltrumites. Cecil kept any studies they did on Mark just between himself and Mark, locked up tight in the Pentagon. The only really well known facts about Viltrumites are their strengths and the effects of the Scourge virus. Seriously, the entire Coalition of Planets resorted to biological warfare to take out these species before someone discovered a doom frequency on them. It's not an easy anatomical discovery to make. And, like I said, Robot is the ONLY one (aside from Mark, his victim) to even know about it.

 

I believe Nova has a slight edge here.

 

Nova's not even worth a theater.

 

You're right. This deserves it's own live action theatre.

 

I thought if there were a weakness, we'd get it in prep. Part of the charm for prep, since you get at least a sample of the weakness. Now, whether you can then do something (i.e. "Can I replicate the radiation of kryptonite?") with it, is up to the person was my understanding...

 

one other thing i forgot to mention...in the secret wars comic, WITH 24 HOURS PREP, Doom made a chest plate that was able to steal THE BEYONDER's power...if he can do that, he can figure out how to take down any lesser being in the same time frame

 

That has been my understanding as well. You generally get a sample of a weakness and I believe the DNA of the opponent. What can be done though falls to the character. But that is why characters like Batman, Iron Man, Lex, Reed, Doom and Strange tend to benefit from prep because it gives them time to research and design counter measures. Now, whether that will work for Doom in this situation is another matter.

 

It's a small enough sample to analyze, but too small to use. Right?

 

That's always been the rule, unless it's something inherently usable for the power-set (power absorption, energy absorption / duplication, mimicry, etc.) -- and then down to the individual participant to be able to use effectively (or not).

EDIT: Also, there was a small "grey area" for substances that are lethal for the opponent in even extremely-small amounts, but that comes up extremely rarely, IIRC.