Games The Comic Book MINI Draft

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  1. DarthIntegral JC TV/Movie Draft Commish/SFTC Tiemaster

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    Welcome, one and all, to the Comic Book Mini Draft.

    If you've never done a draft before, you might want to review some others:

    Comic Book Draft XI
    Jedi Draft 24
    And so many others. Google can be a powerful Ally.

    The Premise is the same. GMs draft characters assemble teams, They send in "numbers" to send those teams to battle.Judges decide the winner. An overall winner is crowned victorious.

    This is a mini-draft because:

    • We're limiting it to just 6 GMs
    • We're shortening the scope of "playoffs"
    • We're not eating up time hashing out a draftable list
    So, here's the basics:

    The Participants


    The GMs - Six of you will sign up. You'll each submit twenty characters you want to be able to have selected in this draft. Then, you'll be assigned a position in the draft order (one through six) which will reverse every round (more on that later). Then, you'll name your team. Then, five times, you'll send in numbers for your team (more on that later) and possibly argue for your characters.

    One note on the submission of characters. The commish and Judges can and will veto characters that are too powerful or abstract. No manipulating reality or time or other "game breaker" mechanics. Have fun. If the character is completely out of, say, Superman's league, don't put them on your list.

    The Judges - Pre-assigned as @Mikaboshi and @a star war. They will add 20 more characters each to the list. Help veto dumb suggestions (there will be some) to the list. And then judge battles (more on that later). I will act as a judge in the case of them disagreeing.

    The Commish - That's me. I'll judge when needed. I'll add another 20 characters to the list. I'll veto characters when needed. Randomize the draft order. Post matches, and generally keep the draft moving.

    The Process

    First, GMs sign-up.

    Second, we compile (and veto parts of) the character list. GMs, please post your twenty characters within 24-hours of signing up. Please note, you can specify an incarnation other than "main" continuity, just make sure to call that out when you do so. Also, I'm down with multiple versions of things, like the Hulk. So, if one GM puts World War Hulk on their list, and another puts Professor Hulk, I'm down with that.

    Third, we Draft. Let's say our six participants are Kermit, Animal, Piggy, Fozzie, Scooter, and Gonzo. I would randomize the order and we'd draft this way:

    Round 1

    1. Fozzie
    2. Scooter
    3. Gonzo
    4. Piggy
    5. Kermit
    6. Animal

    Round 2

    1. Animal
    2. Kermit
    3. Piggy
    4. Gonzo
    5. Scooter
    6. Fozzie

    And we'll do that for twelve rounds. So, everyone ends up with 12 characters.

    Fourth, we go to battle. We will do a round-robin, so every GM will play every other GM. Everyone gets a total of 5 matches.

    Each round, you'll send in numbers. You go 1-10 and put one character on each number (leaving 2 on the bench). So, let's say Animal Drafted the following team: Deadpool, Lady Deadpool, Kidpool, Dogpool, Negasonic Teenage Warhead, Colossus, Ant-Man, Wasp, Blue Beetle, The Incredible Hulk, Captain America and Falcon. Animal might send in the following numbers:

    1. Captain America
    2. Deadpool
    3. Lady Deadpool
    4. Ant-Man
    5. Wasp
    6. Blue Beetle
    7. Colossus
    8. Dogpool
    9. Kidpool
    10. Falcon

    Bench: The Incredible Hulk and Negasonic Teenage Warhead

    Each round, you send a Private Message to the Commish with your numbers.

    There are two optional strategies:

    1) Prep Time - a Character gets advance notice of who their opponent is. They get a small DNA sample and a computer file of known weaknesses. They are not given enough of the DNA to create anything, and they aren't given access to weapons (like Kryptonite) they wouldn't normally be able to access. You can use a single prep to give a character 24 hours and do this twice per round, or use a double-prep and give a character 72 hours and do this once per round.

    2) Trumps - You can send two characters together on the same numbers. The first time they are called, they fight together (creating a potential 2-on-1), but the second time they are called they forfeit (giving you an auto loss, or a draw if both trumps hit a forfeit). You can trump any number of characters (so, three or four at once) just every additional character added to the trump is another forfeit (i.e. a trump of four characters would result in 3 forfeits).

    So, using these strategies, Animal Could send:

    1) Deadpool
    2) Lady Deadpool
    3) Captain America TRUMPED with Falcon
    4) The Incredible Hulk
    5) Ant-Man (Double Prepared)
    6) Wasp
    7) Colossus TRUMPED with Negasonic Teenage Warhead
    8) Falcon TRUMPED with Captain America
    9) Negasonic Teenage Warhead TRUMPED with Colossus
    10) Dogpool

    So, when the Commish calls number 3, both Cap and Falcon go into battle, and then on number 8, there's a forfeit. (Note: order is randomized, so 8 could be called first). When the commish calls number 5, Ant-Man will enter battle having spent the last three days analyzing his opponent and coming up with a strategy.

    Once all numbers are in, the Commish announces battles. GMs can argue, and then Judges judge. We go through all ten numbers. If one GM gets more wins than losses, they win the overall battle. If we're tied (5-5, 4-4-2, etc) we go to teams. In a Team battle, all 12 characters fight, and the teams have 48 hours to prepare. Then, we judge an overall winner.

    We repeat this until the round robin is done. If a GM emerges undefeated from Round-Robin play, they are declared the champion If no GM is undefeated, we take the top two ranked GMs (first ranking is overall wins in round robin play, second ranking is individual wins in round robin play, tiebreaker is Cleveland Trivia)

    And I think I covered everything. To sign-up, Copy this list and add your name:

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  2. heels1785 JCC/PT/New Films Manager

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    Magneto
    Captain America
    Superman
    Supergirl
    Rocket Raccoon
    Wonder Woman
    Martian Manhunter
    Green Lantern (John Stewart)
    Power Girl
    Green Arrow
    Aquaman
    Nightwing
    Kilowog
    Deathstroke
    Blue Beetle
    Black Adam
    Iron Man
    Steel
    Wolverine
    Black Panther
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  3. Darth Punk Force Ghost

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    Picks to follow.

    Also, wtf heelsy - call yourself a DC purist?
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  4. a star war Jedi Knight

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    Characters change a lot so I'm going to be looking at current continuity as a guide. If, for example, you draft magneto and are expecting golden/silver age power levels you might be disappointed.

    Temporary or currently ongoing developments will probably be overlooked as well, without good cause not to.
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  5. dp4m Chosen One

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    20 names to come later, after I fly.
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  6. heels1785 JCC/PT/New Films Manager

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    Haha. In this case, since I was first, I just named 20 of my favorites. Even though I like DC much better, I've been reading more Marvel, as of late - the Marvel Unlimited iPad deal is fantastic, and DC has nothing like that without spending far too much money.
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  7. Mikaboshi Jedi Grand Master

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    That is contradictory to the judging guidelines we have used for years.
  8. a star war Jedi Knight

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    Ok. This draft has been going for over ten years. That's a lot of material that gets overlooked for a couple of scans of, like, doctor Doom stealing twinkies in the 80s or whatever.

    If it is primary cannon which hasn't been overwritten by primary cannon since, feel free to bring it up as an accomplishment, but if you're trying to pass off the same page of magneto's shield holding off every avenger that hasn't been relevant to the character in several major changes since, I don't know what to tell you.

    It's fun to look back at that stuff but I'm trying to establish a baseline and I'm not going to overlook modern events in favor of peak pulp science shenanigans from the coke addled mind of 1970s Stan Lee.
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  9. Mikaboshi Jedi Grand Master

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    I don't overlook modern continuity either, but it was decided a long time ago that we are using peak examples of characters. I am ok with Inty determining if we are going to deviate from what we have always done, but if we are looking to determine a baseline for characters we have found (out of experience) that it is a lot easier to determine the peak baseline rather than whatever a character is at currently.

    This seems to just be rehashing old debates, I'm ok with whatever Inty is ok with since he is running the show.
  10. Darth Punk Force Ghost

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    Etrigan the demon
    Teh Flash (Barry Allen)
    Black Bolt
    Juggernaut
    Swamp thing
    Hulk
    Squirrel Girl
    Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond)
    Thor
    Silver Surfer
    Dr Doom
    Apocalypse
    Loki
    Black Alice
    Dr strange
    Sentry
    Vision
    Maker (Reed Richards)
    Sinestro
    Orion
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  11. a star war Jedi Knight

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    Well if the commissioner tells me to do something I guess I have to do that but I don't have to like it.
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  12. cubman987 PT Book Club Host - PT Trivia Host

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    Spider-man (Peter Parker)
    Spider-man (Miles Morales)
    Spider-man 2099
    Spider-woman (Jessica Drew)
    Spider-Gwen
    Silk
    Venom (Eddie Brock)
    She Hulk
    Batman
    Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)
    Zatanna
    Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
    Black Widow
    Green Goblin (Norman Osborn)
    Carnage
    Mr. Fantastic
    Human Torch (Johnny Storm)
    The Thing
    Invisible Woman
    Luke Cage
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  13. Mikaboshi Jedi Grand Master

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  14. a star war Jedi Knight

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    Give this man an award.
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  15. DarthIntegral JC TV/Movie Draft Commish/SFTC Tiemaster

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    Sustained Peak is what I'd prefer to go with.I would define sustained as a several year (3+) demonstration for characters with a long history. For a character that's been around 10 years or less, current is what we'll go with.

    however in the case that a character has had a major change in their powerset, we should go with current form.

    @Mikaboshi and @a star war I suggest we take 24 hours once the list is populated to identify any characters that will be judged on current form, not historical, sustained peak, and mark them in the list so a GM knows what they are drafting.

    Cool?
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  16. a star war Jedi Knight

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  17. Mikaboshi Jedi Grand Master

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    Excellent plan, I'm down. :cool:
  18. MandaloreYak Jedi Master

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  19. A Blind Prophet Jedi Master

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    whew, last spot. >_<

    1) heels
    2)punk
    3) dp4m
    4) cubman987
    5)A Blind Prophet
    6) The Yak's Inferno
  20. Mikaboshi Jedi Grand Master

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    We still need 20 characters from @MandaloreYak @A Blind Prophet and @dp4m

    Also the judges.

    Here is an alphabetized list of what has been suggested so far, I merged all the Green Lanterns for now.



    Apocalypse
    Aquaman
    Batman
    Black Alice
    Black Adam
    Blue Beetle
    Black Bolt
    Black Panther
    Black Widow
    Captain America
    Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)
    Carnage
    Deathstroke
    Dr. Doom
    Dr. Strange
    Etrigan the Demon
    Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond)
    Green Arrow
    Green Goblin (Norman Osborn)
    Green Lantern (Pick One) (Do we want more than one?)
    Hulk
    Human Torch (Johnny Storm)
    Invisible Woman (Sue Storm)
    Iron Man
    Juggernaut
    Loki
    Luke Cage
    Magneto
    Martian Manhunter
    Mr. Fantastic (Reed Richards Do we want to allow the Maker as well?)
    Nightwing
    Orion
    Power Girl
    Rocket Raccoon
    Sentry
    She Hulk
    Silk
    Silver Surfer
    Sinestro
    Spider-man (Peter Parker)
    Spider-man (Miles Morales)
    Spider-man 2099
    Spider-woman (Jessica Drew)
    Spider-Gwen
    Steel
    Supergirl
    Superman
    Swamp thing
    Squirrel Girl
    Thing (Ben Grimm)
    Thor
    Venom (Eddie Brock)
    Vision
    Wolverine
    Wonder Woman
    Zatanna
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  21. A Blind Prophet Jedi Master

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    my comment on GL's is that since there were two specific ones listed, it should probably be those two specific ones, otherwise we have a shorter list than actually intended.

    and i'll get my list up before the 24 hours is up, going to have to think a bit on this.
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  22. MandaloreYak Jedi Master

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    Nightcrawler (AoA)
    Mr. Sinister
    Atrocitus
    Dex-Starr
    Cable
    The Plutonian
    Max Damage
    Static
    Scarlet Spider (Kaine)
    The Lizard
    Captain Cold
    Beta Ray Bill
    Psylocke
    Storm
    Terra
    Lyssa Drak
    Kaiden
    The Shark (Karshon)
    Rogue
    Shadowcat
    Objections: Juggernaut-Too impossible to hurt, and now apparently resistant to TP as well.
    Flash- Not comfortable with Barry or Wally
    Magneto- Obligatory objection due to the shield
    Dr. Strange- Um... Too strong. And he can warp reality.
    Sentry- Too Strong
    Squirrel Girl- Isn't her power that she never loses?
    Zatanna- Just too... Hard to judge... She's a plot device more than a character for a draft.
  23. a star war Jedi Knight

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    One person suggested multiple Green Lantern Corps members, so my guess is that the GM wanted them both on there.
  24. A Blind Prophet Jedi Master

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    heels had stewart and then cubman had jordan, so that's two pretty specific ones, so yea. i'm kinda feeling that the specificity of it should be respected.
  25. Mikaboshi Jedi Grand Master

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    We still need 20 characters from @A Blind Prophet and @dp4m



    Apocalypse
    Aquaman
    Atricitous
    Batman
    Beta Ray Bill
    Black Alice
    Black Adam
    Blue Beetle
    Black Bolt
    Black Panther
    Black Widow
    Cable
    Captain America
    Captain Cold
    Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)
    Carnage
    Deathstroke
    Dex-Starr
    Dr. Doom
    Dr. Strange
    Etrigan the Demon
    Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond)
    Green Arrow
    Green Goblin (Norman Osborn)
    Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
    Green Lantern (John Stewart)
    Green Lantern (Kilowog)
    Hulk
    Human Torch (Johnny Storm)
    Invisible Woman (Sue Storm)
    Iron Man
    Juggernaut
    Kaiden
    Loki
    Luke Cage

    Lyssa Drak
    Magneto
    Martian Manhunter
    Max Damage
    Mr. Fantastic (Reed Richards Do we want to allow the Maker as well?)
    Mr. Sinister
    Nightcrawler (AoA)
    Nightwing
    Orion
    Power Girl
    Psylocke
    Rocket Raccoon
    Rogue
    Scarlet Spider (Kaine)
    Sentry
    Shadowcat
    She Hulk
    Silk
    Silver Surfer
    Sinestro
    Spider-man (Peter Parker)
    Spider-man (Miles Morales)
    Spider-man 2099
    Spider-woman (Jessica Drew)
    Spider-Gwen
    Static

    Steel

    Storm
    Supergirl
    Superman
    Swamp thing
    Squirrel Girl

    Terra
    The Lizard

    The Shark (Karshon)
    The Plutonian
    Thing (Ben Grimm)
    Thor
    Venom (Eddie Brock)
    Vision
    Wolverine
    Wonder Woman
    Zatanna
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