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Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by Barriss_Coffee, Jun 20, 2013.

  1. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    I'm so shocked that the studios are doing that!
     
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  2. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Force Ghost star 6

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    Sorry, but the only movies I've seen mentioned that deserves to be mentioned alongside Star Wars is The Avengers 2 and maybe Avatar 2. None of the others are competition.

    Avatar doesn't seem like a film that should get a sequel to me, but I think perhaps many others disagree.

    I like Jurassic Park, but after Lost World and JP3 the franchise just isn't on that level anymore. It'd have to be unanimously super amazingly awesome (which I highly doubt) to even come close to what Ep VII will do.

    Independence Day? Are you kidding me? Look, I like "welcome to erf" as much as the next guy, but how the hell do you make a sequel? Everyone will ask that question, and that's enough to put people off.

    Pirates of the Caribbean? Mission Impossible? Those are still being made?

    Also, I'm a huge Arnold fan, but nothing he does is a big deal anymore, this isn't the 80s.

    It's not that these other movies can't do good numbers and make a lot of money, it's just that they can't compete with Ep VII.
     
  3. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I loved Avatar but its story was wrapped up in the first one.

    Another one I saw mentioned that doesn't need a sequel: Kung Fu Panda. I saw the first two, they weren't bad--not great, but not bad. I can't think of what the hell they'll do with a third one.
     
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  4. newdawn12

    newdawn12 Jedi Master star 4

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    Kung Fu panda is a six movie series
     
  5. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Damn. News to me.
     
  6. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Okay so I'm seeing everywhere that Terminator 5 is now supposed to be somekind of reboot. I think I'll pass on it. [face_sick]
     
  7. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    The Kung Fu Panda Saga
     
  8. Sistros

    Sistros Jedi Master star 6

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    not looking to burst bubbles here but Ep VII is NOT a guaranteed success.

    Regardless of what one thinks of the prequels, and I'm no basher (or gusher) of them, it is easy pickings these days to make fun of them.

    It isn't cool to like Star Wars anymore and I say this with a post count of probably over 50,000 all told.
     
  9. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Meh, that just means people will spend money to see it, probably several times, and then trash it later.

    People have always picked on Star Wars; I was around in the OT days and remember it.
     
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  10. Sistros

    Sistros Jedi Master star 6

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    true.

    I suppose what I meant was by success was in line with what you were saying, it will make money, but probably will be trashed, which would be very unfortunate if it turned out good.
     
  11. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    Reboot has become a buzz word tossed around so early on that it's impossible to know what exactly a movie is anymore. Hell, I've seen Ep. 7 written up as a "reboot" and it's clearly a freakin' sequel! It's called Episode 7!
     
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  12. Lee_

    Lee_ Jedi Master star 4

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    I was using that as an example to illustrate the fact that because a scientists believes something doesn't mean it isn't outlandishly ridiculous and far-fetched- the ol' "Some scientists say_____" isn't always meaningful. Highly educated, licensed physician says-"HIV doesn't cause AIDS." Highly educated, credentialed scientists says- "The earth is 6000 years old." Get the connection?

    Except in that field, "quack" is the norm rather than the exception ;)
     
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  13. Sistros

    Sistros Jedi Master star 6

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    never mind
     
  14. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    For example, I've seen some bashers claim that the lava only damaged Vader's back and the rest of his injuries are from falling into a reactor and that the ROTS Mustafar injury scenes are an example of GL revisionism.
     
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  15. Slash78

    Slash78 Jedi Master star 3

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    What reactor?
     
  16. Chewgumma

    Chewgumma Force Ghost star 7

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    Is this really a suitable thread for this discussion?


    Personally I loved Kung Fu Panda 2. It's not a classic by any means but virtually everything about it appealed to me. So I'm quite looking forward to the third one. Having said that there could always be the possibility it will end up like Shrek the Third... [face_sick]
     
  17. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah I know but this seems to be an actual reboot. They called it such in the press release and it is also said to be the start of a stand alone trilogy.
     
  18. Chewgumma

    Chewgumma Force Ghost star 7

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    Sounds like an attempt to distance any new movies from the planned Salvation trilogy more than anything else. If this is the same movie that Arnie has said he'll be involved in then I'm sure it will be more in line with the first three movies rather than a completely stand alone effort.
     
  19. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    It's still too early to tell I guess but everywhere I've read describes it as a stand alone trilogy with little to no ties with the previous films. The fact that Arnold is still involved in it gives me absolutely no faith in the project. If you're going to reboot the franchise go all the way. It seems to me that they want to tell their own story but are too afraid to cut all ties to the other films.
     
  20. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    A reactor that would be seen in PT: Basher Edition, just like Mustafar was seen in ROTS.
     
  21. fishtailsam

    fishtailsam Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The sequels for Avatar and Independance Day are actually the same movie. Will Smith leads a one man invasion of Avatar-land in retrobution for the july 4th invasion of Earth... and to steal all their cantretrieveit-o-nium.


    I keep hearing the new Star Wars is a reboot as well.:(
    (edit: Oh I see that point has been thoughoughly hashed)
     
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  22. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah I know. In my post above though I said that it was the press release from Paramount that described it as a reboot and stand alone trilogy. Nothing from LFL has described the ST as such.
     
  23. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The Tragedy of Jack Black
     
  24. ScorpionJedi

    ScorpionJedi Jedi Knight star 3

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    Well Comic-Con happened, and now the two biggest movies Star Wars would probably face off against are:

    • Avengers 2: Age of Ultron
    • Man of Steel 2: World's Finest with Superman & Batman
    Thoughts anyone?
     
  25. Jedirush2112

    Jedirush2112 Jedi Master star 4

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    I think they should release all the Franchises on the same week and see who lands on top! Finally settling the age long discussion of which Franchise is best!
     
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