I've noted in some other threads that I've been playing through the Dark Forces Saga in more or less reverse order -- though I'm currently playing Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 before I play Mysteries of the Sith. Having moved on from the series back in 2003 or so in pursuit of more earnest Expanded Universe endeavors such as KOTOR 2 and other media, I've decided to look past the Chuck Norris jokes at the stories to the Dark Forces saga and Kyle Katarn as a character. I've also been listening to the audio dramas. He's clearly designed to have a very similar in backstory to Luke: he's a farmboy from a backwater planet who successfully attended and graduated the Imperial academy, however his expertise was in some form of infantry combat as a cadet stormtrooper vis-a-vis Luke's piloting expertise, which feeds into his role as protagonist of the first Dark Forces game which was a straightforward first person shooter. Unlike Luke, he's not all that idealistic and after learning that the Empire killed his father never committed to the Rebel Alliance, instead working as a mercenary. In Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2, we're exposed to some of the hammiest acting ever, the genius of which is that it's so good that you can't really tell if it's real bad acting or intentionally bad acting, likely being a mixture of both. It's amazing and worth witnessing on youtube at the very least. And the game provides a live action depiction of stuff like Force destruction, which I think is neat because it's sometimes difficult to visualize some of the Force powers that the video games, novels, and comics have created as being part of the same universe as the live action films. I think that Jerec is one of the coolest villains in Star Wars, not only because of the performance put on by Christopher Neame but how the character was fleshed out in the supplementary materials, whether they be the novellas, the audio drama adaptation, Abel Pena's Dark Forces Saga RPG supplements, et al. I have to imagine that if the game was created now, the Seven Dark Jedi would be the Seven Sith, with Jerec proclaiming himself the Dark Lord after Sidious' demise and abolishing the Rule of Two. Frankly, I'm surprised this hasn't been retconned already. The novellas introduced the backstory of Kaan as a Dark Jedi and he was made into a Sith. If you look past the acting and the barebones story -- in the context of the game itself -- I think Kyle's story is interesting. It's more or less Luke's story from The Empire Strikes Back -- minus the Vader revelation. And Kyle's already something of a more cynical and jaded version of Luke, so it makes him a much darker figure. I recall that about a decade ago there was some controversy among some people over the plausibility of Kyle becoming well trained enough as a Jedi, absent a true teacher, being capable of defeating seven Dark Jedi, including having the capability of defeating Jerec after he is empowered by the Valley of the Jedi. I know the novella has Jerec stripped of that power, but even that sort of an ability seems to be a much more advanced one than what someone like Kyle would be capable of doing. Another interesting retcon would be that Jerec was using the Forcewalking technique from the Sith inquisitor story from SWTOR -- as they seem to be more or less the same, unless I'm mistaken (I've only finished Act I of the SI story). Jedi Outcast is somewhat disappointing from a story perspective compared to Jedi Knight. I guess there's the emotional involvement by Kyle due to Jan's ostensible death, but absent the deeper Inigo Montoya revenge angle it's lacking -- plus his reason for revenge evaporates before he even faces Desann. I can't quite put my finger on why it feels empty otherwise... maybe if Desann had his own Dark Jedi disciples rather than just Tavion that would spice it up a bit, as I feel the diversity of Jerec's Dark Jedi made things interesting. I guess Desann is kind of boring without the hammy acting of Christopher Neame, and the game itself seems somewhat barebones with the absence of the more esoteric Force techniques, limiting itself primarily to those seen in the films. I'd suggest the retcon that Yun is the Dark Apprentice from TFU2 if the Dark Forces Saga didn't already give him a backstory. I guess we could say that Sariss or Jerec wiped his mind and gave him false memories. For those that dislike Starkiller, it has the added benefit of demonstrating that Starkiller really isn't all that powerful and bolsters the interpretation that Vader threw all fights. Maybe Juno Eclipse is Sariss rather than Shira Brie. TAKE THAT @Ulicus. I don't have anything against Jedi Academy for what it is. It's a shame that Jedi Knight III: Brink of Darkness was cancelled. Kyle Katarn has been criminally underutilized for the past decade, with the one time he actually took action in a novel consisting of him getting Worfed for Caedus. It didn't take.