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Amph THE DARK KNIGHT RISES(now also general Batman discussion)

Discussion in 'Community' started by Import_Jedi, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    So are the rumors that JGL will make a cameo in The Man of Steel legit? It might make some sense, but I'm not really sure if it could work.
     
  2. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That would be very interesting if true. the Batman trilogy went out of its way to avoid the supernatural aspects of Batman (Ras' immortality mostly) and ground the series in seriousness if not realism. JGL (assuming he's playing Batman Jr.) showing up in Man of Steel would obviously neutralize that.

    But hey, it might point us to an actually good Justice League movie. So I'm pretty down.
     
  3. drg4

    drg4 Jedi Master star 4

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    The ending depressed me, to a degree neither Schumacher flick has managed. Not because Bruce relinquished the Batman persona, mind you, but because he abandoned his city.

    A genuinely uplifting ending would have had Bruce throwing off the cape and cowl, hand the title over to Blake, and take over Wayne Enterprises, thus continuing his father's legacy in restoring the city and ending poverty.

    I truly, truly hate this ending. It's right up there with Return of the Jedi, wherein Darth Vader Goes To Heaven. It would serve Bruce right if Selina walks out on him with his last pair of pants.
     
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  4. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    JLG will not be Batman in the Justice League film. WB, his reps, and I think Nolan have all nixed the idea.
     
  5. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Did anyone here read much of the runs when Dick Grayson was Batman?

    I've only read Gates of Gotham (not Batman & Son) and I have to say, I hate Damian Wayne but I liked Dick as Batman. Refreshing to see a different take on the character.

    What is it with asshats and even numbered Robins?

    Dick Grayson = great. Nightwing is a fantastic character.
    Jason Todd = Chump.
    Tim Drake = Both Dick and Bruce feel he could be a better Batman than they were; the Dick certain thinks he's a better Robin. I'd love to read stories of Tim Drake as Batman.
    Damian Wayne = Just... look, it's not funny when kids get hurt but I would make an exception and laugh if this kid got hurt.
     
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  6. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I have Prodigy. Pretty good arc even if nothing terribly exciting happened in it. I generally enjoy it when Grayson doubles for Batman, though-his general personality just makes things more fun to read, like him complaining about the Batsuit 'being like wearing a ball gown made out of Kevlar!' :p
     
  7. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Yeah but... Damian.
     
  8. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    He's the price we have to pay. :p
     
  9. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    OK so did anyone pick up the 2nd half of the animated Dark Knight Returns?



    I really miss the inner monologues of the characters - unless you've read the book you don't get why Superman does what he does from purely the film - but then again who would watch this and not have read the book or get the book after?
     
  10. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's out already? I thought it was going to be out later this year.
     
  11. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Yep. Out at end of January 2013.
     
  12. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Oh ok. Cool. I'll have to get it and post what I think.
     
  13. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    Damian Wayne is an odd numbered Robin, actually, Stephanie Brown had a brief tenure so that the writers could make Tim look better by comparison.

    Also, Morrison's run on Batman & Robin is really the only place where I liked Damian. He's a generally bad idea, but he's entertaining there and plays off Dick really well.
    Speaking based on a general assessment of some comic and cartoon boards I browse? A rather surprising number.
     
  14. Frank T.

    Frank T. Force Ghost star 6

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    Is there any reason to watch TDKR when I can just pluck the book from my shelf and read it again?
     
  15. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    That upsets me, Ramza. :p Both the seminal Miller Bat-books have been done now, and Year One was pretty damned good too.

    I would love to see them do Long Halloween next.

    I'm not sure how to answer that.

    Seriously, though, yes. Same as their Year One adaptation. Just watch them. :p
     
  16. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I never read the graphic novel, but I just watched TDKR Part 2 tonight. There was only one thing that bothered me:
    How does the Joker snap his own neck? Is that even possible?
     
  17. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, got around to watching them- Ender_Sai, I do think the story loses a lot without the inner monologues.

    TiniTinyTony:
    I don't think it's as nearly as big a deal as the Joker being implied to be supernatural, like the comic does :p
     
  18. darthcaedus1138

    darthcaedus1138 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  19. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    If I recall correctly, and it's admittedly been a while
    he's suffered some non-lethal spinal injuries from Batman in their fight, because Bruce almost went over the edge and took him down for good. Is it even possible? I don't know.
    What. I don't remember that being hinted at in the slightest. Miller certainly implied something else about the Joker, though.

    [​IMG]

    Of course, by 80's sexual politics standards I suppose it could've been worse.
     
  20. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    What, the Nazi boobs don't impress? :p

    As for my earlier assertion-I always took this line to mean the Joker was possessed or something similar:

    "Whatever's in him rustles as it leaves."
     
  21. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    There's no chance JLG will be Batman in a JLG firm.
     
  22. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    That's because Bats isn't generous enough to call whatever provides the spark behind the Joker's life a soul. Since, y'know, the Joker.
     
  23. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I suppose. :p
     
  24. darthcaedus1138

    darthcaedus1138 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  25. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    I just watched the film again, and noticed this...

    [​IMG]