PT "The dark side of the Force surrounds the Chancellor."

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by The Supreme Chancellor, Jan 11, 2013.

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  1. The Supreme Chancellor Jedi Grand Master

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    During the years preceding the Clone Wars and for most of the war the Council was unaware that the Republic was under the control of the Sith, but during the endgame of LOE and ROTS they slowly become aware of a Sith plot and even suspect the Sith is close Palpatine as he is swirling with dark side energy.

    Do you think this was Palpatine's intent? Or was the Force actually giving them a warning. I know that Palpatine initially wanted to use Maul to pick off Jedi Master's and cause panic and fear among the Jedi. Maybe he did this as well the make them panic and act rashly against what they perceived to be a close-by Sith Lord.
  2. DRush76 Force Ghost

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    He did? Was there a novel that verified this?
  3. Lord_kimo1 Jedi Knight

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    Master DRush76, I too am wondering the validation of the Supreme Chancellor's statement.
  4. The Supreme Chancellor Jedi Grand Master

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    This is verified in "Outbound Flight", has anybody read that novel? He states it pretty early in the novel
  5. Admiral Volshe Chosen One

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    I think he knew how the Jedi might react and had planned his path to power.
    He knew the Dark Side would cloud their vision, making it difficult for the Jedi to see who was behind the darkness in the Force.
    I believe that was vital, to make the Jedi unsure of who was against them (is it really Palpatine? Is he the only one?), an omnipresent threat that could destroy them at any moment.
    It is a warning, though, it's a warning that is difficult to interpret.
  6. Darth Chiznuk PT Trivia Master / Game Host

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    Yes me... [face_devil] The fools! [face_devil]
  7. Joe Force Ghost

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    The Jedi 'knew' the senate was being controlled by a Sith, thanks to Dooku. They just disregarded the information Dooku gave them out of ignorance, because they didn't suspect Palps to be the Sith. When Palps needed the Jedi's attention drawn to him, he just stopped hiding as well as he normally did. This type of action had to be part of his plan. There's no way the Jedi suddenly 'got on the trail' of one of the most powerful Sith ever.
  8. Iron_lord Chosen One

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    A case could be made that they concluded Dooku was lying to Obi-Wan, after he proved himself to be a darksider by hurling Force Lightning at Yoda..
  9. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    That is the approach taken by LOE and even AOTC itself: Joined the dark side, Dooku has. Lies, deceit, creating mistrust are his ways now.
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  10. Cryogenic Force Ghost

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    The thing about this line -- like all the lines in the saga, really -- is that it strongly depends on your particular POV. Mace's comment can simply be read, for example, as the Dark Side of the Force surrounds everyone, including the Chancellor; whether this is consciously evident to Mace or not. Because Yoda previously describes the Dark Side, or one of its metaphysical accoutrements, as a "shroud" that has "fallen", right, thus blanketing everyone -- or the fallible human institutions where such things are fabulously concentrated -- in fear, greed, and confusion? Mace's comment, then, could be just a reminder that the Chancellor is no angel, and that they're all in this corruption together; so don't rule him out kinda thing. The more conventional ruling that the Jedi actually do sense an extra clouding with Palpatine at the epicentre works as well, however. And the answer to the latter is like a puzzle with a thousand solutions. Again, it comes down to your POV.
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  11. Darth Ruian Jedi Youngling

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    Palpatine tried so hard to cover up the dark side in him, which he did a good job since he used the dark side to hide his true appearance and he hid the Jedi from sensing he was a Sith (more specifically a Sith Master).
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