Solo The Darth Maul Cameo

I'm not, and as such am not overly enamoured with the idea that I am expected to be now in order to keep up with the cornerstones of Star Wars canon which are the movies.

 

The old Han Solo books aren't canon.
And what have the Corporate Sector and Blue Max to do with Malachor anyway?

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As part of the Star Wars movies universe; Maul's appearance makes no sense at all!

He was the Sith disciple that got KILLED in TPM to further Obi-Wan's legendary career as a Jedi. At the same time Maul was seriously mistreated as a villain by George Lucas - him all of a sudden turning up in TPM after 1000 years (or how long Yoda believed the Sith to have been extinct) in some kind of hiding, only to be beaten because he decided to take on two Jedi at the same time - also made no sense.

Which makes his return now kind of fitting, cause his whole character arch, including TCW and Rebels, neither makes no senses. Why chase down Kenobi again - only to be KILLED once more... And the spider legs thing - seriously...

Personally I liked the cameo cause (in SW-fashion) it was very surprising! And the actress portraying Q'ira actually put in one of her best performances in the whole movie in that scene - she looked truly frightened and overwhelmed by Maul's appearance. (Let me guess that scene was directed by Ron Howard...)

 

"Star Wars movies universe" is not a thing. There is canon now that includes animated series as well... that's how it goes now. Whether we like it or not...

 

I wonder if the whole lightsaber cameo is going to be a recurring thing in future Star Wars film that aren’t focused on Jedi/Sith.

 

Is there any mention of him in the build up to his scene? Something to fill in the gaps in his story for the audience... some set up? Or is it completely out of left field?

 

To me it's completely out of left field. We're only told that Dryden Vos served someone else and it won't do to displease this boss which is pretty general stuff for a movie with crime syndicates. But if you analyze the movie, maybe you can find clues? Only possible clue that I can think of is the Crimson Dawn symbol which maybe could hint at a double-bladed lightsaber? Although it's closer to Inquisitor's helisaber actually.

 

There are mentions that Dryden Vos is working for someone more scary and powerful than himself, but no clues that it's Maul. Other than the fact that Vos has plenty of Mandalorian armours in his private collection, if you're familiar with Maul's story in TCW...

Perhaps Dryden was originally member of the Death Watch? And perhaps he got the blades that can cut through anything, similarly to a lightsaber, from Maul as well...

Though I thought throughout the whole movie that Dryden's boss is either Jabba or the Emperor. The Maul reveal came as a complete surprise for me, but it was great to see him again on the big screen!

 

True, I am no PT fan - but I have always loved Darth Maul! When I first heard that he was going to be in it I was a little complexed, but then I came around to the idea. His inclusion just felt really out of place...especially when he lights up his saber!

 

Except that doesn't truly apply anymore. First there were the six original movies then the animated TCW (where Maul returned) which made the Lucasverse of Star Wars.

Now with Lucas the only thing that really mattered was the movies because that is all he had until TCW. For Disney that is not the way they do things.

Now I agree that generally speaking the most important things should at least start in the movies then be gone into depth in other media. Obviously that is not what they are doing regarding the set-up of the ST where some of the most important things have been left out and are only going to be in other media.

Makes total sense as far as I'm concerned. He really had no place in the story and something as complicated as his return wasn't going to be told in the movies.

Maul is a great secondary character so I'm confident using him again is far better than anything someone else is going to come up with. Lucas gave him a depth that no one would have imagined existed from TPM.

 

Well he has been hungering to play maul again and it seem he finally got his chance, even if it's just a cameo.

 

"perplexed" you idiot! That'll learn you for staying up for the midnight session when you were already exhausted

 

You contradicted yourself. Maul’s appearance can’t be “out of left field” if, as you say, the film sets it up earlier by telling the audience that Dryden serves a bigger bad. You don’t talk about a biger bad guy, and then never show him. So the film does its job. The fact that it’s Maul is irrelevant, IMO. In the story Solo is telling, Maul is the head of the Crimson Dawn crime syndicate. And having seen the scene in question, His reveal (including the lightsaber reveal) seems to feed into Qi’ra’s character development. The power he exudes, as displayed by his force usage in retrieving his saber, seems to inspire both fear and excitement in her. The next step in her climb up the intergalactic crime ladder.

 

Spoiler tags next time, please.

 

I agree. I have only followed the movies and I just don’t understand of all the great possibilities why this one? As a audience confuser its a doozy. The questions it raises does nothing to improve the wider story.

 

And it even had Duel of the Fates.

HAHAHA.

 

I think because Maul is, in fact, a crime boss during the time period of the film. So Howard/ the Kasdans nabbed Maul from a menu given to them by the Story Group. It's really damned if they do or don't. Had it been Jabba? Fans: Lazy. Fett? Fans: Lazy. A new character? Fans: Why not use existing characters? In that context, Maul is as good as anyone.

 

Except he is dead. Cut in half never to be seen again as is the case with SW characters when they fall to their doom. How does he live and not return to his master? Why does he not kill Vader if there can only be two? How does a Sith hell bend on bringing revenge return to a life or normality as a crime boss? How does the agenda of a Sith fit that of a crime boss? I get that the cartoons brought him to life but I assume much of the audience hasn’t followed that storyline.

I don’t want to be too judgemental before seeing it however I can’t do anything but scratch my head and wonder of all the choices how this made sense. Especially when there has been so little PT reference in anything else. I think introducting Jabba as a crime boss would make a fair bit of sense.

 

The same way that the agenda of a Sith Lord fits that of an Emperor. The job is just a means to an end. Mundane work to achieve darker goals.

 

Hope that's not a suggestion that TCW doesn't appeal to "mature" audiences... it has many older fans who regard it far better than the Disney live action movies.

 

No, sorry I wasn’t trying to insult people or make any sweeping statement at all. My point is just that I assume there are a great many people who haven’t followed the story outside of the films.

Edited. It was a fair point and hopefully my edit is more appropriate.

 

Cool, no prob.

 

There are going to be a ton of "Star Wars fans" who go and see all of the movies but don't do any EU reading or follow any of the shows. Can't wait to see their reactions lol.