Amph Here's Some Money, Go See A Swap Thing: DCU/Elseworlds Discussion

It seems less "Batman V Superman didn't make a billion, you're fired" than "we want to make so many movies we need more than one of you!" problem.

 

I do not see the point in directly adapting DC storylines as animated features. I do not understand why we need a movie version of The Killing Joke, which is at best a hopelessly overhyped comic that even Alan Moore didn't think was too great.

 

Pretty much. Only a few lines of dialogue were cut. Otherwise, that's pretty much the comic brought to life. The only padding was the fight with the SWAT team.

That's been part of the issue with doing these adaptations. They initially promised adaptations that were faithful, but so many stories had to be altered that it left some fans feeling cold. And when going for accuracy, you wind up with complaints about that as well. Not slamming you, but just giving the overall view.

Well, this was the compromise for cancelling JLU and going in different directions for DC's television properties. And the adaptations that were done of B:TAS and JLU were well received by fans. Plus, it would maybe encourage people to read the source material.

Because a lot of fans wanted to see Hamill and Conroy do this and felt that it was one of the stories that was worth adapting. Sure, Moore isn't a fan of it now, but it does have its share of fans.

 

And? I don't really care why these are made, I just don't see the point in making them when you could just go and read the comic. Comics aren't a huge time investment, the images are better, and you don't have to worry about an adaptation "messing up" what you love about a character or the source material.

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Because a lot of fans wanted to see Hamill and Conroy do this and felt that it was one of the stories that was worth adapting. Sure, Moore isn't a fan of it now, but it does have its share of fans.[/quote]

They want it, they don't need it. It's gonna be a mess.

 

The only ones who worry about messing up are the anal fanboys who can just relax and enjoy an adaptation if it's good. Some people don't want to read comics, or don't know where to really begin. And those who do, wouldn't mind seeing it done in animation. Or live action.

 

I read alot of comic books in my life time, as I've been reading them since I was about 9 years old. And every time I've read a comic book, I always wanted the characters and stories to jump right off the page. I wanted to hear the characters' voices and see them move and interact with other characters.

I've haven't mind any of the DC's animated adaptations of their comic books. However, some of the animation I didn't find agreeable (i.e. Justice League War and Throne of Atlantis), but it's fun entertainment.

 

But they are an investment nonetheless. No, not even an investment: just another form of entertainment, and a rather costly one at that. Back in the day, I saw comics go from $.75 to nearly $3 just on account of glossier paper but with the same amount of content as far as quantity and quality was concerned. Now comics are sold at nearly $4 or more. You can argue that's to be expected considering inflation and all that, but in my old cynical age, I find that frankly ridiculous. For a few bucks more I'd rather buy myself lunch. Or...see a movie. And if you can watch an adaptation at the fraction or equal cost you'd pay to buy and read the actual comic (which you can only read so many times before tossing it away in a corner or the nearest trash bin), three guesses which option most people are going to take?

 

'The Flash' Movie Finds New Director With 'Dope' Filmmaker

 

Yeah, Dope was a fun film with alot of depth. I hope that's the direction of The Flash flick as well. Given the footage of Ezra Miller as Barry Allen in Batman v. Superman, it felt like it might have an urban vibe to it. Which would be an interesting take on the character, as I often think of Barry Allen as a kid from the suburbs.

 

Eh, I thought Dope was pretty disappointing. It had a few laughs and a couple of good performances, but I didn't find it compelling really and in the six months or so since I saw it, it's basically faded completely out of my mind.

 

I wish more directors would read up on the source material, unlike Bryan Singer who didn't want his cast of the original X-Men films to read any comic books. Also, reading more than one comic book, which Kevin Smith commented he felt like Zack Snyder only read The Dark Knight Returns re Batman v. Superman.

 

Big Justice League & DCEU News Coming Tomorrow

I think the timing of this new is curious with SDCC only a month away. So, perhaps this is announcement about the entire cast of Justice League being at San Diego Comic-Con or perhaps an announcement about Green Lantern.

I would not be shocked if it was announcing that a new director has been brought aboard Justice League.

 

I'd buy that for a dollar?

 

Here's the big news - course correction, tone changing, and a shocking realization that heroes need to be heroic.

But of course this doesn't matter because the internet has already deemed it bad, so bad it must be.

 

"There are still some red flags, though. The Batmobile still has huge guns on it (bigger guns, in fact). Many pieces of the production still seemed to be in flux as cameras were rolling next door (which is common, but never ideal). Steppenwolf feels like a step back from Doomsday. And the question of how the influx of Marvel-style humor will fit into the world that Zack Snyder established in Man of Steel and BvS remains unanswered."

 

Only one use of "cool". And not even from Snyder.

 

The Bat-Pod had guns. The Bat had guns. Batman totally killed Marion Cotillard/The Joker/Two-Face/etc etc etc....

Doomsday is a stupid villain.

Batman and deadpan humour is a-okay.

 

I hope they told him not to use that word. One must temper expectations after Man of Steel and BvS.

I agree, but the characters need to 1) make sense and 2) be enjoyable and 3) someone you can root for. I didn't get that feeling from BvS.