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Lit The death star plans fiasco

Discussion in 'Literature' started by jacktherack, Nov 11, 2013.

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  1. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Agreed- given that they're a society with 360 degree holographic imagery as a standard transmission format and near-sentient computers/robots, it's unlikely they don't have high data storage capacity formats to accommodate that tech.

    But, as an extrapolation of the data storage mediums available at the time the writers invented these events, it's still feasible anyways. So the assumption they were equivalent to low-capacity format is flawed.
     
  2. JoinTheSchwarz

    JoinTheSchwarz JC Head Admin & Community Manager star 8 Staff Member Administrator

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    Well...WEG actually gave abstract data about data storage because they were that awesome and that extremely bored.

    File size can go from 1D to 13D, with the Death Star plans being 10D in size. Usuall pocket computers have a limit of 5D but you can break a file into chunks (there's a Star Wars equivalent of WinRAR, apparently). So there you have it: your DS thievery fits in two data tapes!
     
  3. Starkeiller

    Starkeiller Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    What if the Death Star plans were a 16mm film print showing that little How to Blow up the Death Star movie Dodonna showed, and the Empire cut the frames up and spread them throughout the galaxy as one of Palpatine's games? That would still leave A LOT of plan theft stories untold. ;)

    Well, as others have said, there were probably lots of fake plans out there. The ones R2 got off the Death Star mainframe are not correct, so what does that say about all the other plans?
     
  4. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Bless WEG.

    I'm curious though- if 13D is the max file size, and a moon-sized planetoid takes up 10D, and we eschew the vector graphics argument for a moment- what the hell takes up more space?
     
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  5. JoinTheSchwarz

    JoinTheSchwarz JC Head Admin & Community Manager star 8 Staff Member Administrator

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    13D is described as the max file size with the current technology. Might be just a theoretical size.
     
  6. The_Phantom_Calamari

    The_Phantom_Calamari Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Oh my God.
     
  7. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Of course. WEG has thought up the answer to the question before we even asked it. Why am I not surprised?


    Misa ab iPhono meo est.
     
  8. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    That should be the motto of the forum.
     
  9. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 6 VIP

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    Now if only they'd explained the "tapes" part.
     
  10. The_Phantom_Calamari

    The_Phantom_Calamari Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Just think of it as some unknown, exotic form of information storage that happens to utilize strips of information encoding material. It doesn't have to be magnetic tape.
     
  11. JoinTheSchwarz

    JoinTheSchwarz JC Head Admin & Community Manager star 8 Staff Member Administrator

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    I'll eat my hat if WEG didn't have pictures of how data tapes are supposed to look. Probably in one of the Fantastic Technology supplements.
     
  12. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 6

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    I thought about running my players through that scenario, but I decided it was too obvious, so instead I had them steal the prototype X-wings from the Empire and help the Incom design engineers defect to the rebels.

    Good times...
     
  13. Starkeiller

    Starkeiller Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Werent't datatapes containing Death Star plans shown in that Marvel issue with Tay Vanis, the one tying into RotJ?

    (Oh, but Death Star II plans have their own little mini-fiasco, don't they?)
     
  14. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    Here's how the Death Star plans were stolen:

    "This is too easy."
     
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  15. Starkeiller

    Starkeiller Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Journalist: So, Chief of State Mothma, we have heard so many accounts of how the Alliance got the Death Star plans over the years, but we have never had an official statement. If you are at liberty to do so, would you share the real story with our viewers?
    Mon Mothma: Well, let's just say that beards were involved.
     
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  16. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    Kyle's beard altered history so that it was involved in stealing the Death Star plans even though he hadn't grown it yet.
     
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  17. Starkeiller

    Starkeiller Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    If Star Wars were Star Trek, there would be a time travel story there. In a universe where the Empire never fell, the heroes would have to go back in time and convince Kyle to grow a beard in order to save the galaxy. It would probably involve a moral lesson about beards imparted by older Kyle to his young, clean-shaven version. Unlike the (thoroughly clean-shaven) moral lessons of Star Trek, that would be something I could get behind.
     
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  18. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Hasbro retroactively gave Awesome-Beardless-Kyle a beard, so there might actually be some form of time travle involved afterall.

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    Oh, there definitely is, because in Lethal Alliance he has a beard as well, in addition to some artwork that depicts his mission to Danuta featuring the likeness of Jason Court.
     
  20. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Trek has it's own beard vs. non-beard character...

    [​IMG]
     
  21. karilyan

    karilyan Jedi Youngling

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    Most advanced form of data tapes in the galaxy and easily hidden in digestive systems to!
     
  22. patchworkz7

    patchworkz7 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Jabba's "artistic" photos of slave girls collection.
     
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  23. jacktherack

    jacktherack Jedi Master star 4

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    I wonder if they have powerpoint in the gffa.
    Hmmm...
     
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