Ok who is able to make it up to Longmont on the 21st? We can arrange a carpool to go up there. I'll fight hard to get the van, so I can drive up six other people. I can meet you at different places in CS, or if your place is on the way I can pick you up at your house. But I still need to check with the folks. And I don't know if the van is up to going up to North Denver. It has died on us a couple times very recently.