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The DK books, on the same level as novelizations?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by RogueWompRat, May 2, 2004.

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  1. RogueWompRat

    RogueWompRat Jedi Youngling star 4

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    *paging Valiento, paging Valiento*

    I've heard the books released by DK (the Visual Dictionaries, Incredible Cross Sections, and the Inside the Worlds of books) have a canon level that is equal to the novelizations, and therefore just a step below the films. Is this right?
     
  2. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Yes, they are canon.
     
  3. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    This topic can be discussed in this thread

    However, according to Sue Rostoni, and Leland Chee, they are as canon as EU. But they are not quite as canon as the novelizations.

    "May 30, 2003

    The preface to David West Reynolds's article says that Lucasfilm gave its "formal imprimatur" of canon to the ICS books he wrote, and did so for at least one of them back in '99.... It seems to go against everything Sansweet and Cerasi said in 2001, and the official site's placement of the books in the EU section."

    LC: "Perhaps your confusion is with the meaning of Lucasfilm. "Lucasfilm canon" refers to anything produced by any of the Lucas companies, whether it be movies, books, games, or internet. "Movie canon" is only that which you see and hear in the Star Wars films."

    SR: "The ICS books are canon. They don't carry the "Infinities" icon, so are considered part of canon...Books in the EU are considered part of the canon of the universe."

    -Star Wars Editor, Leland Chee, and Sue Rostoni, starwars.com VIP thread


    The issue is most everything in LFL is canon(barring infinities) Only things that come straight out of Lucas mouth, his notes, and his movies are G canon. Most everything else is "C" canon(EU).

    Now the DK books do cover some "G" canon material, but they also cover alot of "C" canon material as well. But since they aren't specifically written by Lucas they fall under "C" canon.

    Beyond that there are some obscure sources that are only "S" secondary canon. But those are rare.

    "N"(non) canon is even more rare(covers things like Infinities).

    Jan 21, 2004+

    Are the entries in the Holocron sorted as cannonical & non-cannonical? Are there various degress of oficialness?

    The database does indeed have a canon field. Anything in the films and from George Lucas (including unpublished internal notes that we might receive from him or from the film production department) is considered "G" canon. Next we have what we call continuity "C" canon which is pretty much everything else. There is secondary "S" continuity canon which we use for some older published materials and things that may or may not fit just right. But, if it is referenced in something else it becomes "C". Similarly, any "C" canon item that makes it into the films can become "G" canon. Lastly there is non-continuity "N" which we rarely use except in the case of a blatant contradiction or for things that have been cut.

    I will not go into specifics as to what is considered "S" canon or what items that are seemingly "C" canon are actually "G" canon.

    ...continuity "C" canon which is pretty much everything else. " By everything else I mean EVERYthing else. Novels, comics, junior novels, videogames, trading card games, roleplaying games, toys, websites, television. As I've mentioned earlier, any contradictions that arise are dealt on a case-by-case.

    This has been our general approach to continuity since we began using the Holocron database to track it.

    In a nutshell, anything created by the author would be C-level. Anything in the the novels created by George Lucas (whether it comes from unpublished early script versions, unpublished author interviews with George, or George's revisions to the novelization manuscript) would be G-level unless contradicted by the films.

    It gets a little more complicated when something is seen on-screen but not named. So the "shuura fruit" mentioned in the AOTC novel would be G because you see it in the film, although the author came up with the name.

    -Leland Chee, Keeper of the Holocron, Holocron Database
     
  4. RogueWompRat

    RogueWompRat Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Oh. Thanx!
     
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