The Draft Classic: The Comic Book Draft All-Star Draft

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  1. Zizz Jedi Master

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  2. BartSimpson-SithLord Manager Emeritus

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    7.

    Black Adam vs. Baron Mordo (prepped)
    Yeah, Mordo here.

    Firelord vs. Batman (Prepared)

    Yeah, Batman is many things, but here he's just toast. HA!HA! wordplay. Firelord

    Ten.

    Ultron (prepared) vs. Mongul
    Ultron.

    Iron Man (prepared) vs. Super-Skrull
    Iron Man...move along.

    1

    Loki (prepared) vs. Cassandra Nova
    Loki

    Phoenix (Rachel Summers) vs. Reed Richards (Prepared)
    Reed

    6

    Sinestro vs. Annihilus (prepped)
    Annihilus, yeah, Annihilus can take this.

    Omni-Man vs. Supergirl
    Omni-Man is more brutal and can keep up with everything else. Plus he has tons of one-on-one experience.

    11

    Battlebeast vs. Exodus
    Eh, Exodus is a bum. But his he has enough here, I'd think. Mainly because Battlebeast is not all that...he gives no reason to believe he would be creative enough to shut his brain off and he's given no reason to believe that TP wouldn't work on him.

    Nimrod vs. The Immortal
    Nimrod, definitely. Immortal has durability, but strong enough beams and hits can separate body parts. And Nimrod is good at that.


    8

    Doomsday vs. Terrax
    lol, Terrax. Doomsday.

    Blue Beetle (Prepared) vs. Nova
    Blue Beetle could take this in a few years. The scarab is a lot like the centurion helmet. Except Blue Beetle doesn't have the power of all the scarabs, Nova has all the centurions as of this draft. Nova

    5

    Despero vs. Maestro
    DES-PEAR-OH.

    Mary Marvel vs. Captain Marvel
    Captain Marvel is a bit higher tier than Mary.


    12

    General Zod trumped w/ Bizzaro vs. Magneto
    I actually am inclined to go with Mags here. He can raise his shields pretty fast and then it's just a matter of winning through his powers vs. their speed and power. And neither of these Super knockoffs have shown much in the way of using speed and technique at the same time.

    Green Lantern (John Stewart) vs. Etrigan, The Demon
    Alas the numbers were too cruel,
    For the green light will surely win this duel,
    So it comes, once again,
    The time for the fall of Etrigan.

    3

    General Zod (frofeit) vs. King Hypeness
    Hype.

    Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner) vs. Dark Ages Spawn (Lord Covenant)
    Kyle paints Covenant a new face. And he needs one, too.




    Also: Seid would take Juggs. Eventually. It may last as long as this draft, but eventually Juggs would be out long enough that we could call it. Balk at it all you want. But I'm sticking with it.
  3. MandaloreYak Force Ghost

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    ::balks::
    I could see that if it was one of those pain building up things where each shot hurts a little... But where is anywhere near evidence that 1 shot will hurt at all? Juggernaut isn't hurt by being the same strength of those that can hurt Darkseid (such as Superman). In fact being unhurt by a Celestial blast means that he is unhurt by a being who is...
    A. Able to obliterate The Destroyer in one shot, which is itself powerful enough to
    B. Resist all attacks from Mjolnir which is able to
    C. Beat Superman bloody (though it didn't defeat him)

    So, the Omega beams do roughly more damage than Mjolnir but not all that much more. Juggernaut is unhurt by stuff that does at the very least triple that damage but more likely exponentially more damage.

    I understand the whole "Juggernaut is slow he can't hit Darkseid" thing, but Darkseid literally cannot hurt him. I could punch a steel wall all day but I would never damage it. Only one actually has the ability to win this match.

    And yeah, Exodus wins that easily by previously established statutes. I know yall hate him. I do too. But he wins.

    And furthermore I'm the only one arguing. My opponent isn't even here. Give me the dang match and end this thing. Call it a draw. Heck, give it to Shurron or Whitey or whoever. I want to win but I really want it to end. Just end it.
  4. EmpireForever Chosen One

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    And yeah, Exodus wins that easily by previously established statutes. I know yall hate him. I do too. But he wins.

    Well, of course I wasn't going to stand on this one. I'll look into the Magneto one as well. It's probably teams, so just start arguing for that, anyway.

    If anyone else, at all, feels like they have something to say about Darkseid vs Juggernaut, they can go ahead and say it. I'm going to look at Juggernaut more closely. But for now, it's probably teams.
  5. MandaloreYak Force Ghost

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    Teams... Sounds like Onslaught wins. Alone. As ridiculous as Despero is he has been marginally hurt by some JL attacks. Very occasionally. And healed immediately.

    But the point, dangit, is that Onslaught only appeared to feel some sort of pain when he was concentrating on Franklin Richards and his... Well I don't understand it. His physical form seemed to be 4-5 places at once and some members of the F4 and Bishop were able to seemingly cause him pain. Of course he then told Franklin to wait just a moment and he blew them all into unconsciousness in an instant.

    Then there was Thor using Mjolnir to free Xavier from him. Armor was broken but he was unhurt and said so.

    Apocalypse paled in comparison and he knew it.

    He punched Juggernaut into unconsciousness with 1 punch and shattered his armor. Again you can see what Juggernaut has withstood so apparently his punch is... Well, way beyond anything in this draft, as are most of his serious attacks. His mental powers as well, as he was able to control Hulk easily. Hulk's mind is better than most psi-blockers.

    Onslaught has Magneto's shields. At least as powerful as Magnetos and I'd imagine moreso since all his Magneto/Xavier powers are suped-up (Psychic and Magnetic powers feed off each other in Marvel, or interfere with each other depending on how they're used.)

    He's also psionic energy. Try hurting that. Wiki doesn't mention it till final form but it's clear when Thor runs through his armor that he has no physical body even then. The only other psionic being I remember is Proteus who had a weakness to metal. Onslaught has no such weakness.

    So to sum up... Power unparalleled, shields ridiculous (although he doesn't seem to care to use them much), mental power nigh unstoppable (but again he only takes over... Well I think it's just Hulk).

    Oh yeah and he trapped Juggernaut in the Cyttorak crystal, which.. Well his powers don't explain how he did it. He's just that good (in fact he was able to give Jean her Phoenix powers but it's never told how powerful he made her till she refused him and he took it away, and this was before Phoenix was completely indestructible but... Was still beyond this draft).

    The bottom line is Marvel made a character who couldn't be beat. And, quite frankly, he wasn't beat. And he won't be beat.
    And I really don't feel I should have to argue my other guys when I have him.

    And then he, Despero, Darkseid, and probably Juggernaut should leave this draft. At least there's a rough idea of what can hurt King Hype. And Darkseid seems to be too controversial to continue (although I'd like to just have a written consensus that we'll use his post-Doomsday appearances. I mean the dude is still pretty ridiculous). I have some more guys that can fill the evil void.
  6. MandaloreYak Force Ghost

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    Yeah... Um... Vote for the guy paying attention. And who sent his team in on time.
  7. Dinkus_Mayhem Jedi Knight

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    Yeah, it would be nice to finally get this thing over with instead of letting it drag on indefinately.
  8. EmpireForever Chosen One

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    It's not like there are any mistakes on either team. I don't like to just vote for someone, and I'm not, really, just looking at it I think Onslaught is the better 1st round pick, being as that is the case, he'll probably win. And then win. And then win again.


    Either way, several of the characters involved in this battle aren't going to be there next time, I should't wonder.

    Winner: No one.


    I mean Onslaught.


    Whatever.
  9. BartSimpson-SithLord Manager Emeritus

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    Yeah, I think Onslaught's backfield also has a better chance of hanging with the front of the other team allowing Onslaught to really run wild through the other team. And that's really what I'm basing my opinion on.

    WINNER: Onslaught.
  10. MandaloreYak Force Ghost

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    Yay. I finally won a draft.
    With my opponent not there. Lol. I'll take it.
  11. EmpireForever Chosen One

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    Weaksauce. Anyway. Hooray.
  12. Axle-Starweilder Force Ghost

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    congratulations, yak-face.
    i always liked you.
  13. NYCitygurl NSWFF Manager

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  14. Mikaboshi Force Ghost

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    It's about time you win a comic draft Yak. Congrats old boy, job well done. =D=
  15. MandaloreYak Force Ghost

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    [image=http://top2bottom.net/Jimmy%20Hart.jpg]
    Thank you, thank you. On behalf of The Yak, the Board of Directors, the coach and all the fine players here for the Inferno, I would like to say how humbled I am by this experience. You know, I feel truly honored this evening to be standing here as the spokesperson for a championship team in the all-star draft. We went through times of frustration, times of hardship, times of straight-up malady, but we persevered. And that's what it's all about. Perseverance. I truly believe... Well, at least I'm speaking for The Yak, and he truly believes, that if you persevere with intensity, integrity and intelligence, you too can become a comic draft champion.

    Thank you again. This is truly an honor. The Yak loves you all.

    [face_peace]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-vAkD8LCZQ
  16. Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Grand Master

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    Not the prettiest of wins, but congrats, Yak. Well deserved, brudda.
  17. EmpireForever Chosen One

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    To quote the announcer from Blitz 99, "what a debacle".
  18. MandaloreYak Force Ghost

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    Good job, my agents. You detained him just long enough for my vic- DURRON HOWS IT GOIN I WAS WORRIED ABOUT YOU
  19. Hokage_Kalar Jedi Grand Master

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    WUAAAHHHHHHH! Let me in! Yak can vouch for me, and so can Mario Flu ***thinks to himself, "what a bum"***... err whatever his name is here. I'm ready to draft, and show my comic dominance across all universes, or comic drafts! Come on! Let the games begin! WOOOOOOOO!
  20. MandaloreYak Force Ghost

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    Goodness. I've never seen such arrogance.

    On the plus side, this is probably a better place to discuss the next comic draft, since the discussion board really is for mini-drafts...
  21. EmpireForever Chosen One

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    This is the list. Final suggestions will be considered, but not necessarily adhered to.

    One thing is new this time: we're going with paired picks. When you see a pick listed as, for example, Luke Cage/Iron fist, you are picking both characters which will act as a free trump. Trumps are still an option, and the partner picks are available to trump together or prepare. The only difference from a normal pick is that you are getting two for one.

    There are two teams listed(Teen Titans and New X-Men) from which you may draw any two characters listed and use as a team pick. Remember, only two at a time, but you must choose two. No mixing them up(New X-Men with New X-men and Titans with Titans).


    If you don't see someone, be sure to ask about them. Possibly they were overlooked, or possibly they were removed.

    The List

    Abomination
    Agent X
    Allen the Alien
    Ant-Man (Eric O?Grady)
    Ant-Man (Scott Lang)
    Apocalypse
    Aquaman
    Arachne
    Archangel
    Ares
    Atom Eve
    Atom Smasher
    Atomic Skull
    Atrocitus
    Aurora/Northstar
    Avalanche
    Azrael
    Badrock
    Bane/Ragdoll
    Banshee
    Baron Helmut Zemo
    Baron Strucker
    Bastion
    Batgirl/Spoiler
    Batman
    Beast
    Beast Boy/Cyborg
    Beta Ray Bill
    Bishop
    Bizzaro
    Black Adam
    Blackfire
    Black Knight
    Black Manta
    Black Mask
    Black Panther
    Black Samson
    Black Tom Cassidy
    Black Widow I / Winter Soldier
    Blade
    Blastaar
    Blink
    Blob
    Blockbuster
    Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett)
    Blue Beetle (Ted Kord)/Booster Gold
    Blue Devil
    Boom Boom
    Bullseye
    Cable
    Callisto
    Cannonball
    Captain America/Falcon
    Captain Atom
    Captain Boomerang
    Captain Britain
    Captain Cold
    Captain Comet
    Captain Marvel
    Carnage
    Cassandra Nova Xavier
    Chase/Old Lace
    Clayface (specify which)
    Cloak/Dagger
    Colossus/Shadowcat
    Cosmic Boy
    Cyborg Superman
    Cyclops/Jean Gray
    Daredevil/Elektra
    Darkhawk
    Deadpool/Taskmaster
    Deadshot/Catman
    Deathbird
    Deathstroke
    Demogoblin
    Doc Samson
    Domino
    Doomsday
    Doppelganger
    Dr. Bong
    Dr. Doom
    Dr. Fate
    Dr. Polaris
    Drax the Destroyer
    Dupli-Kate/The Immortal
    Elsa Bloodstone
    Emma Frost
    Enchantress
    Etrigan, the Demon
    Exodus
    Fin Fang Foom
    Firelord
    Firestar
    Firestorm
    Forge
    Gambit/Rogue
    General Zod
    Geo-Force
    Giganta
    Gladiator
    Gorilla Grodd
    Green Arrow
    Green Goblin
    Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
    Green Lantern (John Stewart)
    Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner)
    Grunge
    Guardian
    Hank Pym
    Harley Quinn/The Joker
    Havok
    Hawkeye/Patriot
    Hawkgirl/Hawkman
    Hellboy
    Hercules

    Holocaust
    Hulkling/Wiccan
    Human Torch
    Husk
    Hydro-Man
    Hyperion
    Iceman
    Invincible
    Invisible Woman
    Iron Man
    Jean Grey
    Jubilee
    Juggernaut
    Kalibak
    Kang the Conqueror
    Karate Kid
    Karolina Dean/Xavin
    KGBeast
    Killer Croc
    Killer Frost
    Kingpin
    Klara Prast/Molly Hayes
    Klaw
    Knockout/Scandal
    Lady Deathstrike
    Lady Shiva
    Lex Luthor
    Live Wire
    Lizard
    Lobo
    Loki
    Luke Cage/Iron Fist
    M (Monet)
    Machine Man
    Madelyne Pryor
    Magik
    Magma
    Magneto
    Mandarin
    Marrow
    Martian Manhunter
    Marvel Boy (Noh-Varr)
    Marvel Girl (Rachel Summers)
    Maxima
    Metallo
    Metamorpho
    Mimic (Exiles)
    MODOK
    Mongul
    Monica Rambeau
    Monster Girl/Robot
    Moon Knight
    Moondragon
    Moonstone
    Morbius
    Morlun
    Mr. Fantastic
    Mr. Freeze
    Mr. Majestic
    Mr. Sinister
    Mr. Terrific
    Ms. Marvel
    Multi-Paul
    Multiple Man
    Mystique
    Namor
    Namorita
    Nico Minoru/Victor Manca
    Nightcrawler/Woverine
    Nightwing
    Nimrod
    Nova
    Omega Red
    Omni-Man
    Orion
    Parasite
    Penance
    Pitt
    Plastic Man
    Poison Ivy
    Polaris
    Post
    Power Girl
    Professor X
    Psylocke (current)
    Puck
    Pyro
    Quicksilver
    Radioactive Man
    Ra's Al Ghul
    Raven
    Red Hood (Jason Todd)
    Red Skull
    Red Tornado
    Rex Splode
    Rhino
    Robin (Tim Drake)/Super Boy
    Rogue
    Sabretooth
    Sasquatch
    Scarecrow
    Scorpion
    Sebastian Shaw
    Selene
    Sentinel (Alan Scott)
    Sentinel (Mutant-hunting robot)
    Shadow King (original body)
    She-Hulk
    Shrinking Ray
    Sinestro
    Siryn
    Solomon Grundy
    Speed/Stature
    Spider-Man
    Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew)
    Star Sapphire
    Starfire
    Stargirl
    Steel
    Storm
    Strong Guy
    Stryfe
    Sunfire
    Sunspot
    Super Skrull
    Supergirl
    Superman
    Terrax
    The Hulk (No World Scar)
    The Joker
    The Punisher
    The Savage Dragon
    The Shapesmith
    The Thing
    Thor
    Thunderbird (616)
    Titania
    Toad
    Toxin
    Ultron
    Umbra
    Union Jack
    US Agent
    Vandal Savage
    Venom
    Vermin
    Vindicator
    Vision
    Volcana
    Vulcan
    Wasp
    Witchblade
    Wonder Man
    Wonder Woman


    New X-
  22. MandaloreYak Force Ghost

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    Any opposition to adding Sinister 6 (no Venom) to that pick two team list?
  23. Mikaboshi Force Ghost

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    They don't seem to be like a bad option, and it would be nice to have the same amount of options for villain teams as hero teams.
  24. MandaloreYak Force Ghost

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    Uh... After review, Graviton is too powerful... Yeah..

    I say he should be replaced by Shadow King (original body)
  25. EmpireForever Chosen One

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    Will do.

    Sinister Six
    Dr. Octopus
    Electro
    Kraven
    Mysterio
    Sandman
    Vulture


    To make it eight like the other lists, I can throw in two from either Hobgoblin, Shocker, Chameleon or Lizard. Or possibly Venom, now that I look.
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