The Empire is NOT bad....

The Empire is evil. They murdered billions of people in order to rule the galaxy, and its wasn't for peace. Its all about power and the sith will do everything possible (including corrupting themselves) to achieve that goal.

 

Wow nice comeback...did u find that on the internet in you parents basement...all i am ssaying is that people are going to far with this post....i was kidding when i wrote it...but you stupid people cant seem to notice that...so why dont u shut the hell up before i hit you

 

Is that what you do to people (your wife or girlfriend or is it your boyfriend perhaps?) when you don't agree with them?

 

nice one....NERDS!!!

 

So much anger. . .
What is it with someone, when they don't want to see discussion on something, but they keep coming back for more?
And we are all nerds? What is your point? Yeah, I am a nerd and proud of it! And highly successful too!

 

We're stupid? You're the one flinging immature insults around and seem to think that the only way any of us can put a cohrent thought together is to plagarize it off of some website.

The comeback I fired at you was essentially a broadside from a battleship's 16-inch guns that promptly cause your little dinghy to sink. Too bad you're too much of a dull bulb to realize when you've been out-insulted.

One of the sad things about being an academic, when you insult someone who used such immaturity, they aren't going to comprehend the words you use. While worded politely, my insults are vastly more devestating.

Perhaps you should look at dictionary.com?

 

I thought you had to be over 13 to join these boards...

 

if you notice in transformers, the decepticons are the ones who keep peace and order.

anytime, the autobots are in-charge of cybertron, all hell breaks loose and the planet is either out of energon or about to fall back into civil war. completely mismanaged and bureaucratic with jackasstimus prime in-charge. this equates to star wars a lot, and even massachusetts.

 

There is no way for these boards to document maturity unfortunately.

 

lol darthricekingreturns!
you will make a mighty politician one day!

 

who cares if the thread was originally a stupid joke, it has become someting else, a serious thread about real life, we live in a world in which evil cannot show itself it lives hidden, and people cannot simply go saying things like Fidel Castro is bad or George Bush is good or if your a communist your evil, none of these things have anything remotley to do with me, so dont confuse my opinions as biased, here they are basically which is partly why I dont completely believe the empire is bad:

Hitler is made badder than he might have been, yes he killed and yes he destroyed but he also made some people very happy

Communist may be a good idea gone wrong but it is just as good or bad as capitalism, its just how people get used to stuff

George Bush is not a "freedom" fighter in an way, he invaded Iraq with unjust causes and has remained there as the power extending territory


There are many other things, if you disagree I dont care, Im just trying to make you accept it as plausible

 

Sidious had corrupted everything and had full control. There was no way at that point to bring him to justice through the law because the law no longer existed.

If Mace had killed the Emperor billions of lives would have been saved. Instead Anakin interfered and helped the Emperor murder Mace. Think of all of the people who died when Alderan was destroyed. That could have been prevented.

 

I never figured out the moment when Anakin turned...It could have been when Mace was killed but I wasn't convinced of that at that particular moment.

I never found Anakin evil even after joining Sidious. Well. In a way yes. Killing the Neimoidians and child Jedis was harsh. But beside that he just didn't come off as evil in any way.

I just didn't sense anything sinister.

 

"Fantastic. Vigilante action is fundamentally against the tenants of any legal system."
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There was no longer a legitimate legal system. Palpatine corrupted it and used the darkside to have full control over it.

Put it like this, Palpatine was the lawyer, judge, and jury. The law no longer existed.

He had so much control that when he was announcing that the Jedi would be hunted down and destroyed the entire crowd was so brainwashed they were cheering.

How do you bring the Emperor to justice through the law when law no longer exists? The answer is you can't. Thats what Mace was trying to explain to Anakin. But Anakin was too consumed by his fear of losing Padme' that he put her welfare ahead of the lives of the people in the galaxy.

 

ESB is a GOOD movie.

 

Does it need to be pointed out that there are only 2 sith Lords? It isn't like there are thousands of them and Palpatine managed to ensure that all of his like-minded flunkies got elected to the Senate.

And Palpatine doesn't control the Senate. If he does, why is Bail Oegana against him? Why does the Senate need to be disbanded in ANH if they're his lapdogs? They need to be disbanded because they aren't his lapdogs and he's grown tired of that.

In Palpatine's office, when anakin comes in, he's watching two Sith Lords trying to kill each other. Anakin was the only real Jedi in the PT era and in the OT up to RotJ when his son becomes a Jedi Knight.

The Jedi return because of Luke; not Vader. Vader's sacrifice was done to save his son's life; nothing more.

Anakin is more of a Jedi then Yoda. anakin should have been the only Jedi Master on the Council and Yoda et. al. should have been demoted to Padawans.

 

>>>There was no longer a legitimate legal system. Palpatine corrupted it and used the darkside to have full control over it.

>>>Put it like this, Palpatine was the lawyer, judge, and jury. The law no longer existed.

Of course Windu would say that. He needed to convince Anakin not to join Palpatine. Whether a legal system is "fair" depends on what side of the law you're on.

The fact is, Windu did not have authorization to act against Palpatine. When he arrested Palpatine, Windu said he did so "in the name of the Republic". But the Republic, under a democratically elected Senate, gave Palpatine his chancellorship and even strenghtened this powers. If anyone can speak "in the name of the Republic", it should be the Senate.

Windu may be right if Palpatine attacked first. But I remember it were the Jedis who showed up at Palpatine's residence with lightsabres drawn first.

 

But I remember it were the Jedis who showed up at Palpatine's residence with lightsabres drawn first.

Not only that, Windu acted on the hearsay of Anakin. No checks & balances there. What if Anakin was wrong, or made it up? Geez, talk about abusing power....Windu really messed up IMO.

Loved the scene though.

 

>>>Not only that, Windu acted on the hearsay of Anakin. No checks & balances there. What if Anakin was wrong, or made it up? Geez, talk about abusing power....Windu really messed up IMO.

Not only that, but how does Windu know that the Senate wouldn't want a Sith Lord as its chancellor? Perhaps if you put it to a vote, the Senate wouldn't have mind. Heck, the Senate may have even thought a Sith Lord would do a better job governing.

Of course, the audience has both powers of hindsight and omnipresence and knows Palpatine is rotten to the core and sees his future evil designs for the Republic. But at that moment, Windu wasn't qualified to speak on behalf of the Republic. He was only speaking on behalf of the Jedi.

 

exactly what i think the empire totally wipped out the jedi and that was not a good thing. some of US fellow jedi's are still here like me for one. I'm jedi knight draco, and i will cut down any sith or sith lord!

 

yes exactly what I think Anakin was too full of himself to even consider the fact that Mace was right! but then again I don't think that all of the jedi were wipped out! how could that be i know that there was a number of jedi masters but all wipped out?....no can't be possible but anyways there are a # of US jedi out there I myself have sworn allegiance with the jedi.

 

The Empire's not about peace, it's just about power. Sidious feeds on power and the domination of others. He was happy to manipulate the entire galaxy into a war that cost (presumably) millions of lives. Even if the Republic was a corrupt and bloated entity, trading it for a repressive and murderous form of fascism is a giant step backward.