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Here's a comment by an admin that disturbed me:

This forum is about discussion. If someone posts an idea, everyone is free to disagree with that idea if they so chose. They are free even to make fun of that idea, as long as they do not personally flame the poster. In return, the original poster is free to defend their ideas in any ways they want except personal attack.

This is essentially saying that making fun of a posters idea is ok. WTH? Is that not the worst of personal attacks? Disagreeing with an idea I understand. That's how you debate or discuss. But making fun of another's ideals? Is this JC.N policy?

 

Here's a comment by an admin that disturbed me:

This forum is about discussion. If someone posts an idea, everyone is free to disagree with that idea if they so chose. They are free even to make fun of that idea, as long as they do not personally flame the poster. In return, the original poster is free to defend their ideas in any ways they want except personal attack.

This is essentially saying that making fun of a posters idea is ok. WTH? Is that not the worst of personal attacks? Disagreeing with an idea I understand. That's how you debate or discuss. But making fun of another's ideals? Is this JC.N policy?

 

That's the stupidest post I've ever seen.

 

That's the stupidest post I've ever seen.

 

See Ton can get away with that but I can't say: Gee Ton, picking on someone else is so typical of your assinine personality. The only reason you do things like that is because you suck!That would be way out of line.

I hope this little example of the policies in action was a big help.

 

See Ton can get away with that but I can't say: Gee Ton, picking on someone else is so typical of your assinine personality. The only reason you do things like that is because you suck!That would be way out of line.

I hope this little example of the policies in action was a big help.

 

That would be way out of line.

Even though it's true.

 

That would be way out of line.

Even though it's true.

 

Yes, it is important to remember that what is true doesn't matter. Only appearances.

 

Yes, it is important to remember that what is true doesn't matter. Only appearances.

 

I think most people know what the deal is with this.

Suppose I post "Amidala is Palpatine's long lost daughter! I have proof!" and have a dodgy theory to back it up.

Someone might reply "That's the dumbest freakin' post I've ever read. That sounds totally confused. How did you come up with that? It doesn't make any sense, and here's why.."

- While a bit blunt, this post does not flame a person, it flames an idea.
If you've got any brains you will of course have intelligent, thought-out reasons why you think the idea sucks, but you can still say it sucks - intelligently!


But if someone posted "You are a total moron. Only a dumb-bum would come up with this drivel. Get a life you loser."

- That of course would be totally out of order and would bring on the Imperial March of the admins, because it's a personal flame.


Basically my view is that in a discussion, and when humans exchange ideas, people can get passionate. That's not a bad thing in itself - it's when discussion of the actual issue gets replaced by extended flame-war and personal attack that it becomes wrong.

The line between the two is perfectly clear: it's when an argument goes from discussing ideas to abusing people. Everyone knows when this starts to happen. If they don't, others will point it out.

Of course, if someone just repeatedly posts retarded things like "your idea sucks" without an intelligent reason why, well then they're just being a nuisance and will be told to stop.

You shouldn't take the passion out of discourse, but you can sure do without petty personal maliciousness. Sarcasm may be the lowest form of wit, but it sure can liven up a debate. I for one don't want to see all the energy sucked out of discussions, it's just we must know what the boundaries are.

Hope this makes sense. This is my personal view of the matter.

 

I think most people know what the deal is with this.

Suppose I post "Amidala is Palpatine's long lost daughter! I have proof!" and have a dodgy theory to back it up.

Someone might reply "That's the dumbest freakin' post I've ever read. That sounds totally confused. How did you come up with that? It doesn't make any sense, and here's why.."

- While a bit blunt, this post does not flame a person, it flames an idea.
If you've got any brains you will of course have intelligent, thought-out reasons why you think the idea sucks, but you can still say it sucks - intelligently!


But if someone posted "You are a total moron. Only a dumb-bum would come up with this drivel. Get a life you loser."

- That of course would be totally out of order and would bring on the Imperial March of the admins, because it's a personal flame.


Basically my view is that in a discussion, and when humans exchange ideas, people can get passionate. That's not a bad thing in itself - it's when discussion of the actual issue gets replaced by extended flame-war and personal attack that it becomes wrong.

The line between the two is perfectly clear: it's when an argument goes from discussing ideas to abusing people. Everyone knows when this starts to happen. If they don't, others will point it out.

Of course, if someone just repeatedly posts retarded things like "your idea sucks" without an intelligent reason why, well then they're just being a nuisance and will be told to stop.

You shouldn't take the passion out of discourse, but you can sure do without petty personal maliciousness. Sarcasm may be the lowest form of wit, but it sure can liven up a debate. I for one don't want to see all the energy sucked out of discussions, it's just we must know what the boundaries are.

Hope this makes sense. This is my personal view of the matter.

 

And while I'm on the subject - this brings up the issue of squelching other people's beliefs.

On the face of it there is no problem with people debating heatedly the subject of, say, politics, and disagreeing strongly and passionately.
There IS a problem when someone comes in and tries to crush other people's personal values - to deny them the right to have these values and even condemn them by it.
Again - this distinction should be crystal clear.

You can disagree with someone on the subject of politics - and have your own reasons why you do and express them - but when you deny other people's right to their beliefs you have crossed the line.

Again, this is the way I see it. All input is welcome.

 

And while I'm on the subject - this brings up the issue of squelching other people's beliefs.

On the face of it there is no problem with people debating heatedly the subject of, say, politics, and disagreeing strongly and passionately.
There IS a problem when someone comes in and tries to crush other people's personal values - to deny them the right to have these values and even condemn them by it.
Again - this distinction should be crystal clear.

You can disagree with someone on the subject of politics - and have your own reasons why you do and express them - but when you deny other people's right to their beliefs you have crossed the line.

Again, this is the way I see it. All input is welcome.

 

Chyren sucks.

 

Chyren sucks.

 

Freebeer.com lies like a motherless goat

 

Freebeer.com lies like a motherless goat

 

Baaa

 

Baaa

 

Sounds like FreeBeer's bedroom in here...

 

Sounds like FreeBeer's bedroom in here...

 

You forgot the sound of beer cans opening.

 

You forgot the sound of beer cans opening.

 

So that is why TruaAnikans "Is Anikin really Darth Vador?" still up, huh. Cause besides a few persona attacks, and the author not replying, everyone is trying to figure out if the freak is serious or not. Velly intelesting.

"THE MAN WHO LAUGHS"